Brownie Points

[HotShot53]

Since almost no-one in the fort seems to know what they are talking about, I decided to copy the below to a section where the people who actually know what they like can reply to it ;)

THE BROWNIE LIST

The following is a list of items, occurances, events that are used to gained desired Brownie Points from those of the opposite gender. Here is what I have come up with so far (even if BroTrevor is probably the only one who knows what he's talking about because he snagged one).
10 point maximum....

1 point- Card
1 point- Flowers
1 point- Candy
2 points- Card with signature
2 points- Candy or flowers with signatured "To, From" slip
3 points- Card with mushy gushy writing fluttered in it
3 points- Candy with mushy gushy card attached
5 points- Taking out to fancy dinner
5 points- Card with mushy gushy writing fluttered in it, inside a boquet of flowers
7 points- Going to her favorite resturant and paying for it without asking
7 points- Card with mushy gushy writing fluttered in it, inside a boquet of flowers, with candy, delievered to her door.
8 points- Having her friends help you design a secret meeting with clues (cards, flowers, candies- all fluttered with romance) that lead her to her favorite resturant where here favorite meal has already been ordered and she stands in shock of your immense preparation and efforts to make this one moment possible........ see why it's worth 8 points! lol

[Tibs]

Hmmm....

I think the Bro. Trevor could be right about the five love languages thing...(only now people know I read that...where?)

I mean all those things are just romantic things - not really any depth - but I guess that could be my own opioion. Not to say they wouldn't mean anything to me...but...hmmm

[AndrewMichael]

Since almost no-one in the fort seems to know what they are talking about, I decided to copy the below to a section where the people who actually know what they like can reply to it ;)

I have been thoroughly betrayed......

[joris]

I think the Bro. Trevor could be right about the five love languages thing...(only now people know I read that...where?)I know this book, it's a good read; now if I were able to apply it it were even better
(thinking of me... having great trouble showing, I'd want to care about my parents? oh well :y10: no not thinking of any girls, I never had any relationship)

[alesha19]

Since almost no-one in the fort seems to know what they are talking about, I decided to copy the below to a section where the people who actually know what they like can reply to it ;)


Thanks for posting this HotShot. I've been wanting to comment on this but haven't been able to :yay:

I think all the mushy, gooshy, fluttering is a BIT much...
BUT that is just me.... :D

[AndrewMichael]

Thanks for posting this HotShot. I've been wanting to comment on this but haven't been able to :yay:



Be lucky you have one of the guys turned to your side.....(sigh)

[HotShot53]

Be lucky you have one of the guys turned to your side.....(sigh)

Lol, I'm not on their side, I'm on the side I think right ;) To quote from a guy who is almost exactly like me in a classic book (he reads and studies too much, and has little in the way of social graces...), "Never mind sides, uphold the right wherever you find it." (and that quote was replying to the exact topic of girls vs. guys ;))

[Unregistered]

lol
let's see who all puts post in here
This is going to be funny to read

[Unregistered]

Lol
This is funny Girls vs Guys

[NoahL]

And what is the name of this fictional person?

[HotShot53]

And what is the name of this fictional person?

Mac Campbell

[alesha19]

hmmm i think we should all read this book, no? ;)

[HotShot53]

hmmm i think we should all read this book, no? ;)

It's actually an interesting book... it's basically a fictionalized guide to what to look for in a girl/guy, and how to go about it ;)

[BroTrevor]

It's actually an interesting book... it's basically a fictionalized guide to what to look for in a girl/guy, and how to go about it ;)

the 5 love languages is fictionalized?

I never read the actual book... i read the "for men" version... it wasn't fictionalized.... it just described different "langauges" people "speak"...and how to identify that.

[AndrewMichael]

People cmon now (drops head)... my post wasn't to be taken seriously!

I mean, I totally believe that a man should KNOW that this is the girl before doing all these Brownie Point earning activities. This is not some method to 'winning' a girl but to make her happy once you know the Lord wants you together. I guess it's fine to look into the Love langauges or what have you, but I believe if you're going to do any of the above it should be from the heart and only to make the other person happy, not expecting anything in return.

I was definitely Mr. Romantic when I was in the world and it will do nothing but confuse you more from the truth. Romance must come from Love, not Love from Romance... There isn't a science to this, we should be happy with where we are. Maybe we are older than most people who are getting married around us, WHO CARES! We need to recognize that if we really serve the Lord, He is in complete control, and you're mate will come right when they are supposed to. Don't go trying all the doors, wait for the Lord to open the right one.

[HotShot53]

the 5 love languages is fictionalized?

I never read the actual book... i read the "for men" version... it wasn't fictionalized.... it just described different "langauges" people "speak"...and how to identify that.

Lol, no, I was referring to the book I was reading...

[HotShot53]

People cmon now (drops head)... my post wasn't to be taken seriously!

I mean, I totally believe that a man should KNOW that this is the girl before doing all these Brownie Point earning activities. This is not some method to 'winning' a girl but to make her happy once you know the Lord wants you together. I guess it's fine to look into the Love langauges or what have you, but I believe if you're going to do any of the above it should be from the heart and only to make the other person happy, not expecting anything in return.

I was definitely Mr. Romantic when I was in the world and it will do nothing but confuse you more from the truth. Romance must come from Love, not Love from Romance... There isn't a science to this, we should be happy with where we are. Maybe we are older than most people who are getting married around us, WHO CARES! We need to recognize that if we really serve the Lord, He is in complete control, and you're mate will come right when they are supposed to. Don't go trying all the doors, wait for the Lord to open the right one.

To quote Bro. Trevor, "Boom!"

[BroTrevor]

To quote Bro. Trevor, "Boom!"

To quote Hotshot quoting me... "Boom!"


Romance must come from Love, not Love from Romance...


Nice bru...Nice

[NoahL]

Lol, no, I was referring to the book I was reading...

So what is the title of this book? Who's the author?

[alesha19]

So what is the title of this book? Who's the author?

To try to help you out brother, since HotShot isn't here.... it's by Louisa May Alcott and it's the sequel to 8 cousins. I can't remember the actual title of it for the life of me...
:confused:
Hope this helps. Lemme know if you figure out what the title is. ;)

[HotShot53]

So what is the title of this book? Who's the author?

As Alesha said, it's by L.M.A., it's called "Rose in Bloom" (Rose being the name of the main character).

[Blood Washed Bride]

Alas, yet another thread that has quickly wandered off topic. Let me see if I can improve matters somewhat...

For me, if the guy found out what sort of things I enjoy doing and made a date to hang out and join in that activity with me would earn 'brownie points'. (Going to a museum, park, historical place; playing tennis; sitting down and going through a book like "The 5 Love languages" together.) And then we would have shared something memorable to talk about later. And learned more about each other's interests in the process.

(My love language is 'Quality Time' by the way. Other girls might care less about this particular 'brownie points' raiser.)

[PianoMan79]

In my limited experience I have found that the girl usually tends to appreciate the time spent together regardless of what we are doing - as long as there is good conversation. I usually try to get them some nice flowers or something to make the evening more special.
Just my $.02 worth! :)

[collegegirl]

Whenever I get flowers, they just die on me....:(

I prefer candy, quality time together, though in certain circumstances, a 12 hour date might not be all that bad. ;) I agree with Melody in some of her ideas.

Now that I understand the Brownie points system, I am not against it; infact, I might even support it*

I really like what was said: Romance from Love, not Love from Romance. It is discussions like these that help keep my feet under me, with the help of the Lord.

I am beginning to despise the world's ways of affections, as friends or as lovers. I can see the difference the way I am treated by the guys at work, vs. the other girls.

So, are you wanting a "Brownie Points" list revision?

______________
*Under extreme and unusual circumstances.

[HotShot53]

So, are you wanting a "Brownie Points" list revision?

That was sort of the reason I copied the post into a section where girls can post on it ;)

[God'schild]

umm i don't mind
1 flowers,
2 a moonlite walk, dinner.
3 playing games together.
4 meeting my parents
5 making sure my parents approve of him.
6. candy, chocolate.
7 cards

[AndrewMichael]

I really like what was said: Romance from Love, not Love from Romance. It is discussions like these that help keep my feet under me, with the help of the Lord.



Just to let you know, that quote is copyrighted... so that'll cost $0.05 per use... (takes nickle from collegegirl) thank you...

And ya, GIRLS, go ahead and make the improvements, if you're just gonna bash the whole thing, then don't waste your time... Maybe some actually thought out advice to advance the brownie system (not the quality time, that's difference) but how to professional weight those matters in the Brownie List...

Thank you.

[God'schild]

i think the browine system is awesome
i agree with it 100%

[blessed]

*sigh*

Brownie list according to Blessed

1 point- Card- with mushy stuff
2 points- Flowers ( nice but everyone buys flowers do something different)
3 points- Chocolate
4 points- Card with signature (if you don't sign it I will assume I have a secret admirer)
5 points- Cooking a great dinner (or at least pretend you did :D)
6 points- musically oriented
7 points- Being able to talk and listen
8 points- Original ( copying someone else idea to put on a card is lame, write what is on your heart)
9 - Honesty
10 -Loves the Lord with all his heart.

There is my 10pt list.

Other point gaining activities... (Soon to come)

[God'schild]

that's a good browine list.

My brownie list is

1 point for a card.
1 point for candy and chocolate
2 points for a card and candy.
2 points for a card and flowers
3 points for a card, flowers and candy.
4 points for a romantic dinner.
5 points for a moonlite walk
6 points for a candlelite dinner
7 points for being yourself.
8 points for being honset
9 points for just being there
10 points for LOVING THE LORD
10 points for Being Filled With The HOLY GHOST.

[BroTrevor]

5 points- Cooking a great dinner (or at least pretend you did :D)


That's hilarious!!!

[God'schild]

I know of guys that can cook great.

I would give them points for at least trying to cook a dinner.

For me it's the thought that counts

[HotShot53]

Hmm... looks like no one event is ever worth more than 6 points, according to the two lists just posted... guess you can't just buy or impress your way into a girls heart ;)

[God'schild]

Nope that won't work for me.

[AndrewMichael]

I know of guys that can cook great.



(raises hand) sweetness... I love cooking and if its worth that many points for cooking dinner.... I got this in the bag!!

[God'schild]

good for you.

lol :yay:

(jking):yay:

[jtucker]

I know how to get into a girls heart!, you get down on your knees and



and pray for the Holy Ghost if you don't already have and you pray for you soul mate that Jesus would keep her and reveal her to you , so then when God brings her together with you you are already in her Heart for God put you there and her in your heart. that's how you get inot a Daughter of God's heart

[God'schild]

That's the way

but how do you do it physcally?:confused: :confused: :confused:

[jtucker]

well seeing as the human body in comparison to the human heart is well let's just say it wouldn't fit.

but if you mean how to woe the Girl just Follow the leading of the lord keep yourself perfect(mature) in the Lord and she will come around

[Babyruth]

I don't have a system. No guy will do unless God tells me. Which, He hasn't yet. Last night, after my church grad, a bunch of us went out to Boston Pizza and it was a lot of fun. Before we left, we had been taking funny pictures and being kinda dumb, especially about my friend and this guy that we tease her about liking. His older brother and I were taking pictures of them and other girls and being dumb. He knows my thoughts about marriage, and to be "funny" asked me in a very joking way to marry him. I obviously said no and we left for Boston Pizza. I was freezing and had my sweater on, but was still cold, especially because I ordered a cold drink. So, to make fun of me, which a lot of people like to do about my thoughts on marriage, he offered me his coat. I said no. Then he offered to go out to my car to get my coat. So, I let him because I was freezing and I was sitting in the middle where it would be hard to get out. I thought it was nice of him, but he's my friend, so it was nice. My friend who I mentioned before said that earned him "brownie points" and I said no. So, the moral of this long story is that not much that a guy does for me gets him far. :D

[blessed]

lol... poor guy, he should have at least got one point, for going out in the cold.

[leahmb]

Ruth, you are hilarious! Now I am really curious...I want names, but maybe on our lil trip we can talk about it. Maybe you can consider it a "gentleman" point. (that's what my mom gives out) And they are not redeemable only by her daughters (thankfully!!) But it's like free advertising for them when they become "certified gentlemen." Too bad there's only been like two of those. But I kind of like the concept. Oh, and they can lose points too.

[blessed]

Ruth, you are hilarious! Now I am really curious...I want names, but maybe on our lil trip we can talk about it. Maybe you can consider it a "gentleman" point. (that's what my mom gives out) And they are not redeemable only by her daughters (thankfully!!) But it's like free advertising for them when they become "certified gentlemen." Too bad there's only been like two of those. But I kind of like the concept. Oh, and they can lose points too.

That's interesting :D, only two meet the requirements so far wow.

[Babyruth]

Ruth, you are hilarious! Now I am really curious...I want names, but maybe on our lil trip we can talk about it. Maybe you can consider it a "gentleman" point. (that's what my mom gives out) And they are not redeemable only by her daughters (thankfully!!) But it's like free advertising for them when they become "certified gentlemen." Too bad there's only been like two of those. But I kind of like the concept. Oh, and they can lose points too.
Thanks, but it's true. I'll tell you if you are really interested on our trip. Seriously though, I don't like him and he doesn't like me. When you hear who it is, you'll know he is just nice. It was nice of him. So, yes, he can have a "gentleman" point. That's all. :)

[God'schild]

well seeing as the human body in comparison to the human heart is well let's just say it wouldn't fit.

but if you mean how to woe the Girl just Follow the leading of the lord keep yourself perfect(mature) in the Lord and she will come around


Amen!!!!

(message is to short:( :( )

[God'schild]

i think that i have found my dream guy.. So now i'm waiting for the leading of the Lord to change his heart and his fears about marriage..

[AlanaH]

Awesome....let us know how that comes......

[HotShot53]

i think that i have found my dream guy.. So now i'm waiting for the leading of the Lord to change his heart and his fears about marriage..

I'm assuming that this is still the same guy it was a couple months ago?

[blessed]

i think that i have found my dream guy.. So now i'm waiting for the leading of the Lord to change his heart and his fears about marriage..

Change his heart and fears?

[HotShot53]

Change his heart and fears?

Lol, the preacher at the KY banquet this past weekend was all for guys and girls to get married as soon as they found the right one, and forget getting financially set up perfectly... 18-20 or so for girls and 20-22 or so for guys seemed to be what he thought the ideal age was for getting married...

[blessed]

He said that. Isint that kinda young.

[HotShot53]

He said that. Isint that kinda young.

He was married when he was 20, and his wife was like 18... and apparently he thought that worked just fine for him, and could work for most people ;)

[God'schild]

I'm assuming that this is still the same guy it was a couple months ago?

And who was this guy a couple of months ago?? (i don't remember telling you, but okay.)

[AlanaH]

No, but you posted about him somewhere cause I remember reading it...

[Anna]

Lol, the preacher at the KY banquet this past weekend was all for guys and girls to get married as soon as they found the right one, and forget getting financially set up perfectly... 18-20 or so for girls and 20-22 or so for guys seemed to be what he thought the ideal age was for getting married...

hmm....well I guess I'm gonna be that old sprinster lady with lots of cats, since I past that age up a while ago...

:kitty: :kitty: :kitty: :kitty: :kitty:
aren't my kitties beautiful....
*hissssssssssss....

[BroTrevor]

He was married when he was 20, and his wife was like 18... and apparently he thought that worked just fine for him, and could work for most people ;)

DId he have rich parents? Or did he live in an apartment with neighbors that had loud bass music next door like us?

[God'schild]

He was married when he was 20, and his wife was like 18... and apparently he thought that worked just fine for him, and could work for most people ;)

well i guess i will be an old maid then.. because i doubt i will be married before i'm 25.

[HotShot53]

Lol, I'm older than you all, and have no real prospect of getting married any time soon either... we'll just have to eventually change the name of the forums to the "old maid's and bachelor's forums" ;)

And you didn't tell me his name, God'schild, but you did tell me about him (and enough that I probably could have found out who, if I really wanted to ;))

[God'schild]

Anna you are very funny...

Haha

DJ if you think you can find out, try to find out.. i doubt you ever will find out untill i get married. and the people that know promised they wouldn't say nothing.:y10:

[Anna]

thanks Godschild, I'm not funny though I'm just a dork. :)

So who are we talking about here? I would like to be in the loop.

[God'schild]

thanks Godschild, I'm not funny though I'm just a dork. :)

So who are we talking about here? I would like to be in the loop.

ask DJ he seems to know who.
i'm in the loop as well sorry..

[joris]

So who are we talking about here? I would like to be in the loop.to help ease the pain I'll tell you I'm not in a loop either

[blessed]

Dj seems to be the only one in the loop

[Babyruth]

Or so he thinks. He's always thinking things like that. :D

[Anna]

ok I say we start our own little loop that they aren't in....who's with me??
And we'll be the "in crowd"
:cool:

Any body got any interesting something to share?

[God'schild]

yea i think DJ is making this stuff up.. i think he would like to know and says he can find out but he doesn't know how to find out..

this is all in DJ brain..

[Babyruth]

I'll join, Anna. We can talk about Coldstone!

[HotShot53]

yea i think DJ is making this stuff up.. i think he would like to know and says he can find out but he doesn't know how to find out..

this is all in DJ brain..

Lol, I'll tell you over MSN if you want... I doubt you want me posting the little bit I do know on here ;)

[Anna]

Ok babyruth....let's get this party started!
:soda: :birthday:

with lots of sodas, cakes, cookies, pies and chips....

Don't forget to pray for your food!

:)

haha

[joris]

I'll join, Anna. We can talk about Coldstone!please, no, no gossiping
who/what is coldstone anyway

[redeemed]

coldstone is like the best ice cream place in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:yay:

[HotShot53]

coldstone is like the best ice cream place in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:yay:

I've never heard of it... where is it located?

[Babyruth]

Joris, we won't gossip, don't worry. Like redeemed said, Coldstone Creamery is the best ice cream place in the world!!!!!! It's sooooooo yummy! They have locations all over the US. I think anyways. Here's a link to their site: http://www.coldstonecreamery.com/main/index.asp.

Hotshot, I looked up the locations nearest you, here is a link of all of them: http://clients.mapquest.com/coldstone/mqinterconnect.

[HotShot53]

Cool, they have one like 5 min from my house... I may have to stop by there some time, since you all say it's so great ;)

[Babyruth]

How could there be one 5 min. from your house and you never knew it? It is wonderful! A bit expensive, but worth every bit!

[HotShot53]

How could there be one 5 min. from your house and you never knew it? It is wonderful! A bit expensive, but worth every bit!

Lol, we don't exactly go out to eat ice cream much here... no-one to really go with :( And besides, there is an awesome ice cream place, nifty-fifty's, that is like 2 min from our house ;)

[Babyruth]

Still, to never have even seen it or heard of it? Sad, sad indeed.

[Anna]

GO Hotshot and you will never look back again!

actually....I don't go to coldstone that often...I usually go to Gunther's....it's just a little ice cream shop where they make their own yummy ice cream...

And the best ever ice cream I had was when I was in Arizona....I don't even know the name of it....It was in a tiny little town in the middle of no where. But they make their own ice cream there....mmmmmm....so delicious. I gotta ask my mom where that was. It's been like 4 years since we've been there.

[Babyruth]

Yeah, there is a place close to us that makes their own ice cream and it is super good! They make really weird but good flavors.

[AlanaH]

Yeah, but most of them are sooooo good. Very fattening too, I might add...:y10:

[God'schild]

i don't think they have them in Canada!! never been to one..

[Babyruth]

You'll have to visit one the next time you're in the States and near one.

[God'schild]

You'll have to visit one the next time you're in the States and near one.

i don't think i will be in going to the states for a very long long time..

[Babyruth]

Hmm... Well, then we'll just have to bring some to you. :D

[leahmb]

i don't think i will be in going to the states for a very long long time..

Well...there is also a place called Marble Slab, which is pretty much the exact idea and there are some in Canda. Here's a link to the locations: http://www.marbleslablocations.com/locate/locations.aspx?METHOD=NATION&NATION=Canada&REGION=CA maybe one will be close or if you go on a trip you might be by one.

[God'schild]

Well...there is also a place called Marble Slab, which is pretty much the exact idea and there are some in Canda. Here's a link to the locations: http://www.marbleslablocations.com/locate/locations.aspx?METHOD=NATION&NATION=Canada&REGION=CA maybe one will be close or if you go on a trip you might be by one.

They have no Marble Slab in Saskatchewan.. and i don't know when i will be travelling to Alberta or Ontario so i won't be going to one of them for a long long time..

[Nate]

They have no Marble Slab in Saskatchewan.. and i don't know when i will be travelling to Alberta or Ontario so i won't be going to one of them for a long long time..

Well then, it's your fault for living in Canada. :harhar1:

[God'schild]

Well then, it's your fault for living in Canada. :harhar1:

I feel like being mean to you but i won't

no it's not my flaut that i live in Canada that's the Place where my parents moved and that's the place where God wanted me, IF he didn't want me in Canada he would've never brought my parents to Canada.

And i'm not saying it's anyone's flaut. Have you ever been to Canada??

[HotShot53]

I feel like being mean to you but i won't

no it's not my flaut that i live in Canada that's the Place where my parents moved and that's the place where God wanted me, IF he didn't want me in Canada he would've never brought my parents to Canada.

And i'm not saying it's anyone's flaut. Have you ever been to Canada??

Lol, he was joking... notice the :harhar1: ....

[Babyruth]

I feel like being mean to you but i won't

no it's not my flaut that i live in Canada that's the Place where my parents moved and that's the place where God wanted me, IF he didn't want me in Canada he would've never brought my parents to Canada.

And i'm not saying it's anyone's flaut. Have you ever been to Canada??
No it's not your fault. Canada is a great place to live. I'm sure she'll survive fine without the ice cream places, but at least she has somewhere to go next time she's close to one.

Hotshot, I'm sure she knew he was joking, but who likes to be made fun of all the time? People make fun of Canada a lot, and yes, they do deserve it, but hey, it's still a great place and I'm sure she's faithful to her country.

I can say this, I was born there. :D

[HotShot53]

I can say this, I was born there. :D

Lol, you may have been born there, but I've heard rumors that you are a bit patriotic for the USA, not canada ;)

[Babyruth]

You know how reliable rumors are. I'm patriotic for both, just more so for the USA. I'm dual, I go both ways. :D

[Nate]

Ahem...

Welcome to Canada, it's the Maple Leaf State.
Canada, oh Canada it's great!
The people are nice and they speak French too.
If you don't like it, man, you sniff glue.
The Great White North, their kilts are plaid,
Hosers take off, it's not half bad.

I want to be where yaks can run free,
Where Royal Mounties can arrest me.
Let's go to Canada, let's leave today,
Canada, oh, Canada, I Si Vous Plait.

They've got trees, and mooses, and sled dogs,
Lots of lumber, and lumberjacks, and logs!
We all think it's kind of a drag,
That you have to go there to get milk in a bag.
They say "eh?" instead of "what?" or "duh?"
That's the mighty power of Canada.

I want to be where lemmings run into the sea,
Where the marmosets can attack me.
Let's go to Canada, let's leave today,
Canada, oh, Canada, I Si Vous Plait.

Please, please, explain to me,
How this all has come to be,
We forgot to mention something here.
Did we say that William Shatner is a native citizen?
And Slurpees made from venison,
That's deer.
Let's go to Canada, let's leave today,
Canada, oh, Canada, I Si Vous Plait.
(http://www.christianrocklyrics.com/fiveironfrenzy/ohcanada.php)

[Babyruth]

Is that Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie?

[Nate]

Is that Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie?

What? No, it's Five Iron Frenzy.

[God'schild]

No it's not your fault. Canada is a great place to live. I'm sure she'll survive fine without the ice cream places, but at least she has somewhere to go next time she's close to one.

Hotshot, I'm sure she knew he was joking, but who likes to be made fun of all the time? People make fun of Canada a lot, and yes, they do deserve it, but hey, it's still a great place and I'm sure she's faithful to her country.

I can say this, I was born there. :D

Thank you for staking(sp?) for me.

[Nate]

So, wait a sec. You were offended by a jars of clay song, on a worship CD...

But not the guys that made ______

Hooray for double standards!

[NoahL]

So Ruth... I'm sure you copied and pasted that song.... maybe you should have proof read and edited it first?

[HotShot53]

So, wait a sec. You were offended by a jars of clay song, on a worship CD...

But not the guys that made _______ (http://www.deadtroll.com/)

Hooray for double standards!

I'll not have double standards... I don't like either ;)

[Babyruth]

Yeah I did. Is there something wrong? Sorry if there it! DJ, fix it! Please! No, I don't listen to all their songs, just a couple. I'm not promoting them, just saying they have a couple funny songs. But, I am very sorry I posted something bad. Forgive me! And I didn't say all Jars of Clay was bad, I just didn't like the songs I've heard so far.

[Babyruth]

I am soooo sorry! The edition I heard was different. And that link is not them. Sorry. At least not the group I've heard. I do apologize. I am sooo sorry. Ah! Delete it DJ!

[HotShot53]

Ok, deleted.

[Babyruth]

Thank you! You are such a blessing! Forgive me!

[MeganD.]

Back to the brownie points...

I believe the best thing a guy can do to get brownie points is just to be who God wants him to be. I think one of the things I notice most about a guy is his consideration for others. Does he help others out even when it is "unstylish" to do so? Does he respect people, both guys and girls? Does he have a personal experiance with Jesus Christ? I think this is the most important part. It is my feeling, if this is there, you should not have to worry about anything else. Guys, you do not have to exhaust your efforts to get a girl, just be considerate. You can also add in, and do special things for, and with her. Personally though it would mean more to me for a guy to help me clean up or something...if we were at the same place, than to buy me a gift. It does not take that much thought to just go out and buy a gift, but thinking of someone else, and helping them even when you do not feel like it, really shows you have some character. Gifts are good too though:) .

Just my $.02

[EllyMae]

Very good 2 cents Megan. :)

I'm feeling inspired...

Ok, just bare with me here. This is coming from somewhere, I promise. Just don't feel like going into detail, haha...

This should probably be in a different thread, but oh well. All righty, here goes! *smacks hands together*




"Finding Your Soul Mate" :D

First of all, our relationship with the Lord is the most important relationship we have, so we shouldn't even start looking for our mate until we have the Holy Ghost. He should always be our first priority. People will come in and out of our lives who we might believe are "the one," but God sometimes has someone else for you. However, He brings everyone in our lives for a reason. So, don't be discouraged if it doesn't work out with someone you're interested in. The person that's for you, is for you and you ALONE, nobody else's. You don't want someone that's not yours. If God shows you, "hey, this isn't the person you're meant to be with!" then say, "Praise the Lord!" Yes, it's hard getting let go, and can be equally as hard letting someone go, but you don't want to be outside the will of God. That's why it's so important to have the Holy Ghost and a close relationship with God, and anyone you're interested in should have the same.

Also, you can't pray enough. The Lord wants us to sit down and talk to Him. Say, "You're the One who predestinated my soul mate, help me find them, You know who they are.. You know the right steps for me to take.." Without His guidance, we'll mess it up everytime. We have to place it in His hands.

Jesus chose a special Bride. She serves Him with all her heart and soul. Their love is so genuine for each other. It shouldn't be any different in choosing your mate.




Ok, ok ok ok... I could go on and on. These are things you've all heard before. Sometimes it's nice to hear them again. Faith comes by hearing, so when we hear ourself speak the Word, it increases our faith. Nothing wrong with that, huh? :)

[joris]

Personally though it would mean more to me for a guy to help me clean up or something...if we were at the same place, than to buy me a gift. It does not take that much thought to just go out and buy a gift, but thinking of someone else, and helping them even when you do not feel like it, really shows you have some character. Gifts are good too though:)you should keep in mind indeed that's something personal - some people feel more loved whit "doing something for you", or maybe it's the doing it together for you, but others... you know some feel most loved when receiving gifts - just depends on the person

Oh I'm not making that up myself ;)

[marichino_freedom]

Back to the brownie points...

I believe the best thing a guy can do to get brownie points is just to be who God wants him to be. I think one of the things I notice most about a guy is his consideration for others. Does he help others out even when it is "unstylish" to do so? Does he respect people, both guys and girls? Does he have a personal experiance with Jesus Christ? I think this is the most important part. It is my feeling, if this is there, you should not have to worry about anything else. Guys, you do not have to exhaust your efforts to get a girl, just be considerate. You can also add in, and do special things for, and with her. Personally though it would mean more to me for a guy to help me clean up or something...if we were at the same place, than to buy me a gift. It does not take that much thought to just go out and buy a gift, but thinking of someone else, and helping them even when you do not feel like it, really shows you have some character. Gifts are good too though:) .

Just my $.02


sometimes its just the little things that make all the difference in the world.... :)

[MeganD.]

Joris, thats why I put "personally" before the rest of the thought, because it was just my opinion. I'm sorry if it came off the wrong way to you. I didn't mean for it to, so if it did I apologize brother.

[joris]

Joris, thats why I put "personally" before the rest of the thought, because it was just my opinion. I'm sorry if it came off the wrong way to you. I didn't mean for it to, so if it did I apologize brother.that's okay, I just wanted to emphasise that

[AlanaH]

sometimes its just the little things that make all the difference in the world.... :)

That's true...and good points everyone. Certain things just mean way more to me than others, so I'm sure it's that way for some other people too.

[vpiper]

Lol, the preacher at the KY banquet this past weekend was all for guys and girls to get married as soon as they found the right one, and forget getting financially set up perfectly... 18-20 or so for girls and 20-22 or so for guys seemed to be what he thought the ideal age was for getting married...


I was not there and I do not know the Preacher that was speaking, but I think it is a good idea to marry as soon as you found the right one. You don't want to leave room for Temptation to creep in, the more comfortable you get with the person the blurry the line gets, not saying that you won't be able to stay away from it. And We don't know when Christ is coming back so why waste your life waiting to save up something that you can't take with you.

[marichino_freedom]

tell that to a few people....

[joris]

but I think it is a good idea to marry as soon as you found the right one.uhm that may sound obvious but how do you know the "right one" is, well, "the right one"? God doesn't always just yell out "you got to get married to her (or him in your case)", right?

[AgapZoe]

Well,well,well...I like to say and tell myself and keep confessing that 'once the right one comes,I shall know him.' It's hard to tell who the right one is on your own and I trust that's why we got this verse: "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness,and all these things shall be added unto you." And so,I believe it is a matter of Faith. And how does Faith come?-You may ask. Again,I believe Faith comes by hearing the word of God(as Hebrews puts it.) Well,and what if I listen yes,I read too...but it seems like I am not getting this faith? (Again you may ask.)-I'd say,keep reading. Keep on listening. Sooner than later,You shall have It. Especially when you feel like, 'ah,this is a waste of time God. What is the shortest way possible to getting Faith in You?'- I'm sure He'll tell yah, 'Well,my Son/Daughter,There are no shortcuts to Faith,you know. Just as I used the Long route to bring you out of the miry clay,it's the same way I want you to go because,you are my Son. And I want you to be perfect just as I Am Perfect. And because I made you in my image and likeness,you gotta be like your Daddy.:) -and with a Fatherly pat on the back He goes like: 'press on Son/Daughter,you are not meant for this World. Your Mark is of that of a Higher Calling'."
So,keep praying. Seek His Kingdom first and when the right one comes,trust me,You shall know. It shall be added unto you in His Time.

[AlanaH]

That's funny...DJ's post reminded me of what someone told me the other day. We just had a couples dinner at the church a few weeks ago, and someone that was there told me that our pastor said that there's way too many single people in the church, and if they didn't start getting married pretty quickly, he was going to start match-making.

[God'schild]

That's funny...DJ's post reminded me of what someone told me the other day. We just had a couples dinner at the church a few weeks ago, and someone that was there told me that our pastor said that there's way too many single people in the church, and if they didn't start getting married pretty quickly, he was going to start match-making.

LOL.. that's funny

[blessed]

hmmm.... Alana do you go to the same church as Ruth?

:D

[leahmb]

hmmm.... Alana do you go to the same church as Ruth?

:D

Yes, she does. So do I and Skirty :D

[blessed]

Well you all better hurry up.... won't want to put the pastor through all that trouble now ... :D

[AlanaH]

HAHA very funny...
I like to see who he puts with Ruth...poor man. :)

[leahmb]

HAHA very funny...
I like to see who he puts with Ruth...poor man. :)

Hehe...me too. That'll be quite a revelation for her....

[Nate]

HAHA very funny...
I like to see who he puts with Ruth...poor man. :)

lol *snort*

[AlanaH]

I'd hate to see who he'd put me with...again, poor man. :)

[blessed]

Hehe...me too. That'll be quite a revelation for her....

Ha ha ha ha.. that will be something to see :D

[Philippe]

HAHA very funny...
I like to see who he puts with Ruth...poor man.


I'd hate to see who he'd put me with...again, poor man. :)

Well, I don't think I personnaly know any of you... But why you would think that it would be a "poor man".

If you are a daugther of God with the Holy Spirit and you are at your place, then I think that the person that God will put with you will be a "blessed man".

There is probably somewhere someone made specifically for you and I'm sure that that person would be verry happy for you. If it is God that does the match, then it would be te right match.

[blessed]

:D Obviously you have not met Ruth

[Skirty]

Although Ruth will probably 'smite' me for this.. I think she would make an excellant wife! :D (sorry Ruth)
She is neat, practical, good with money, an up-and-coming domestic goddess :), great with kids, patient and she likes long walks on the beach! lol

(Is it starting to sound like a personal ad yet???)

Definately going to take somone special though, not because Ruth is 'difficult' or anything like that... but to get her attention and keep it, he's going to have to be some guy :)

[vpiper]

That's funny...DJ's post reminded me of what someone told me the other day. We just had a couples dinner at the church a few weeks ago, and someone that was there told me that our pastor said that there's way too many single people in the church, and if they didn't start getting married pretty quickly, he was going to start match-making.

I don't think that's a bad idea, in Abraham's family line there was a lot of that.

[Skirty]

I don't think that's a bad idea, in Abraham's family line there was a lot of that.
lol...
ummm, you were kidding right?

[vpiper]

half kidding, some people need a little push in the right direction, but that's God's job right?

[blessed]

Although Ruth will probably 'smite' me for this.. I think she would make an excellant wife! :D (sorry Ruth)
She is neat, practical, good with money, an up-and-coming domestic goddess :), great with kids, patient and she likes long walks on the beach! lol

(Is it starting to sound like a personal ad yet???)

Definately going to take somone special though, not because Ruth is 'difficult' or anything like that... but to get her attention and keep it, he's going to have to be some guy :)
Yes she would smite you... but i have to agree with you on that one she will be an excellent wife... and I have someone in mind :D

[Nate]

Yes she would smite you... but i have to agree with you on that one she will be an excellent wife... and I have someone in mind :D

God works in mysterious ways. Match-makers work in subtle ways.

Please note the difference.

[blessed]

ha ha ha .... Nate please don't take me serious.... its an inside joke...

[EllyMae]

ha ha ha .... Nate please don't take me serious.... its an inside joke...

I've learned not to take anyone serious around here. :D

[blessed]

ha ha ha .... way to go Elly.....

[vpiper]

I've learned not to take anyone serious around here. :D
sounds smart

[Nate]

ha ha ha .... Nate please don't take me serious.... its an inside joke...

lol. I wasn't. I wouldn't dare.

[AlanaH]

Well, I don't think I personnaly know any of you... But why you would think that it would be a "poor man".

If you are a daugther of God with the Holy Spirit and you are at your place, then I think that the person that God will put with you will be a "blessed man".

There is probably somewhere someone made specifically for you and I'm sure that that person would be verry happy for you. If it is God that does the match, then it would be te right match.

Again, inside joke. I'm totally not against getting hitched, but all in good time. I wanna have a little more fun first before I settle down.

[Babyruth]

Too many people to quote and comment on. Glad to know I provided you all with some entertainment. Krista, I'm not one of your dogs, you know. ;) Blessed, don't even try! Anyone else, I'm not interested in getting married, especially not now. I have college to finish, and I still have 5.5 years left. I would not appreciate being matched with anyone. Um... you all are weird. Lets start a different topic.

Oh, and I'm not difficult.

[blessed]

Ok sweetie pie :D

[Babyruth]

I'm smarter than I look. I know what's going on behind that mischievous smile of yours....

[Skirty]

Too many people to quote and comment on. Glad to know I provided you all with some entertainment. Krista, I'm not one of your dogs, you know. ;) Blessed, don't even try! Anyone else, I'm not interested in getting married, especially not now. I have college to finish, and I still have 5.5 years left. I would not appreciate being matched with anyone. Um... you all are weird. Lets start a different topic.

Oh, and I'm not difficult.
Ummmm... I was actually trying to be nice, not compare you to a dog :)
You just graduated, anyone who seriously thinks you need to be getting married quickly could use a reality check :D

[Babyruth]

Ummmm... I was actually trying to be nice, not compare you to a dog :)
You just graduated, anyone who seriously thinks you need to be getting married quickly could use a reality check :D
I know, I feel complimented. But it seemed like an ad. :) Thank you for seeing that! Everyone thinks I need to get married right now, but I don't!

[blessed]

I don't either ....

[vpiper]

what's wrong about getting married? there seems to be too many single girls in the message. Why do you guys think that is?

[joris]

what's wrong about getting married? there seems to be too many single girls in the message. Why do you guys think that is?the girls not wanting to get married might be an explanation
the guys not wanting to get married might be another one
;)

[marichino_freedom]

what's wrong about getting married? there seems to be too many single girls in the message. Why do you guys think that is?


not a clue...but strangely enough, once in a while you hear about so and so getting hitched and it comes as a shock, ya know?

[leahmb]

what's wrong about getting married? there seems to be too many single girls in the message. Why do you guys think that is?

Because there are no guys.....:)

But technically shouldn't there be equal amounts of singles?? Maybe their all just waiting for God to bring the right one. Or maybe if we are in the final hour, God doesn't see fit to bring up another generation?? I don't know...just thoughts.

[Philippe]

Because there are no guys.....:)

But technically shouldn't there be equal amounts of singles?? Maybe their all just waiting for God to bring the right one.

At least, here there are many single boys and girls... And I do believe that a few would make wonderful couples.

Maybe, guys are waiting perfect girls and girls are waiting perfect boys. Are we waiting God to bring the right one or are we closing our eyes when God does so. I understand and believe it should be a revelation... but are we taking that too far and cannot see God reveal himself in simplicity ?

It seems like it get more complicated as the time goes...

[Philippe]

what's wrong about getting married? there seems to be too many single girls in the message. Why do you guys think that is?

Well, I think that in many cases it is not the lack of interest boys... but more the lack of interest from the girl toward one of them.

They like the boy as a friend but are not ready to get married with that boy for whatever reason...

What kind of revelation does you girl are waiting ? Does it have to be a dream where the Lord tell the name of the boy and gives some confirmations like something that would happen ?

[Philippe]

You just graduated, anyone who seriously thinks you need to be getting married quickly could use a reality check :D

Does the reality check is always the will of God ?

Are you girls planning many years in advance and leave no room if God provide for a boy ?

[marichino_freedom]

its hard to explain, but i think you "just know".

plain and simple....if it is right, you will know.

[leahmb]

Does the reality check is always the will of God ?

Are you girls planning many years in advance and leave no room if God provide for a boy ?

Why does this series of posts seem to put the fault on the girls? Maybe the girls are ready and even willing, but the guys are the hold up? Of coure I'm biased, but this seems to be something I see happening.

[joris]

Or maybe if we are in the final hour, God doesn't see fit to bring up another generation??err, I wouldn't bet on that one ;)

[leahmb]

err, I wouldn't bet on that one ;)

Oh, I wouldn't bet on it, but I was coming up with possibilities.......:D

[blessed]

Maybe the girls are ready and even willing, but the guys are the hold up? Of coure I'm biased, but this seems to be something I see happening.

I have to agree with Leah here... i do see that happening

[God'schild]

Why does this series of posts seem to put the fault on the girls? Maybe the girls are ready and even willing, but the guys are the hold up? Of coure I'm biased, but this seems to be something I see happening.

I agree!!

I think the boys are at flaut just as well as the girls.
Some of the girls in our church our going out with guys from different message churches because the guys in our church are not "interested" in them. so they(girls) go for the ones that are interested even if they are from other message churches.

[Philippe]

I agree!!

I think the boys are at flaut just as well as the girls.
Some of the girls in our church our going out with guys from different message churches because the guys in our church are not "interested" in them. so they(girls) go for the ones that are interested even if they are from other message churches.

Well, I think that both boys and girls have expectations...

As a boy, we do not want to ask every girl if they are interested. But when we do are interested and make a move, it seems that although the girl was willing to get married and was ready, it was not according to her expectations.

It may be possible that some girls have not received much interest from boys but there are many girls that can name a lot of boys that have somehow show some interest in them and they are still single...

[Philippe]

Why does this series of posts seem to put the fault on the girls?

This was not my intent. :surrender

[blessed]

I think guys are afraid of me :)

[vpiper]

I agree!!

I think the boys are at flaut just as well as the girls.
Some of the girls in our church our going out with guys from different message churches because the guys in our church are not "interested" in them. so they(girls) go for the ones that are interested even if they are from other message churches.

I think marrying from a different church is fine, cause when you grow up with someone it's like they are your brother literally and it's hard to think of them some other way.

So the guys aren't doing thier part of being interested?

[blessed]

So the guys aren't doing thier part of being interested?

Exactly vipiper......

[cabletown]

Ok, let me add a bit of balance here. For a guy getting married it's a huge responsibility! He is taking the spiritual leadership of the girl from her father! That is a scary thought really! The boy had better be sure he is spiritually stable to handle this! And I haven't even begun to cover the emotional, financial and physical aspects of getting married. From a guys standpoint this can seem almost overwhelming! I have my eye on a young lady but because of my lack of character, lack of finances and especially my lack of the spiritual life that I want to see in my life, I've refrained from moving forward with getting to know more about her. I'm all for moving this process along but at the same time I'm not going to ruin a girls life just because I or her are in a hurry! Besides, I better have something to show to her father if I expect to get anywhere! He isn't no push over!

Sorry girls, but from what I've seen, you all want a level headed guy! Any of you want me for a hubby? ;) JK!

[Babyruth]

While I agree on Leah's part about a lot of guys not being ready or interested, I agree with cabletown. When I think about it, most of the guys I know don't have much money, have no house, no way of really supporting a wife and family, etc. If it were the girl's responsibility to do that, I actually think most of the girls I know would be much more ready to do all that. Now let's not start a conversation on a woman's place, that isn't my intention. But, it seems to me, at least out of the people I know, that the girls have it more together. Maybe it's because they are encouraged more to excell, but guys are not discouraged. They too can go to college, get a degree, and earn money; or they can learn a trade and get a job and make and save money. There is nothing hindering them, except maybe laziness. Now I'm not referring to anyone in particular and I'm not trying to be insulting, it is something I've noticed, and I know Leah has noticed it as well. Maybe it's because they aren't encouraged enough to work harder to make and save money. Or, maybe they just don't want to get married, at least right away, so they don't save money. I really don't know. But, I do see the facts, at least with the people I know. More girls are financially stable with well-paying jobs and something to do while they are "waiting for their Prince Charming." I admire a girl that saves her money and is financially stable. Girls too have a part in contributing to their future, both financially and maturity-wise. So, again, I'm not sure what is causing this, that girls are more ready than the guys, and really, I personally do not care. I just thought that maybe coming from me, you might see it a little clearer, since I'm not "waiting for my Prince Charming."

[leahmb]

but the guys are the hold up

For a guy getting married it's a huge responsibility! He is taking the spiritual leadership of the girl from her father! That is a scary thought really! The boy had better be sure he is spiritually stable to handle this!

That's exactly what I was talking about :D I know plenty of guys that are showing interest, but in reality, they are totally not ready to support (in several ways) a wife/family.

Good post Ruth!

[Skirty]

Does the reality check is always the will of God ?

Are you girls planning many years in advance and leave no room if God provide for a boy ?
Just to clarify, I have no problem when a young couple gets married, but I have noticed that there are WAY too many message girls who rely on it. Not just the girls but their peers as well. When your role models and friends are constantly talking marriage, marriage, marriage from the day you turn 18, it makes you start feeling desperate.
For example, I am in no hurry to get married at all, I have things I want to do, places I want to go and all that.
Before anyone jumps on that, I wouldn't let my plans interfere with those of Gods.
I just turned 21, in my mind I am still young. Yet I always have people saying things like, "is there a young man in your life yet?", "when are you getting married?", I even had a, "your not getting any younger, you'd better pick one up quickly!"
Since when did 25 become 'old maid' status? (in case you cant tell, I am ranting just a teensy bit :) )
There are definately couples who are ready for marriage at a young age, but that takes alot of maturity.
I'm sort of grumpy about this topic right now. I ran into a good friend yesterday who got married right out of high school. The two of them grew up in the church, started going out... everyone knows the story. At the 6 month mark everyone started saying, "get married, get married, get married", so they did. They didn't even last a year. Now I'm not saying it was their peers fault, they should have done alot more praying before walking down the aisle. But at that age, people are impressionable, especially when it comes from their closest friends and even their parents. It was driven into them that the way a young persons life should go is, 'graduate, get married, have babies, get a golden retriever, live happily ever after'. Problem is it doesn'y usually go that way. So when matchmaking comments and stuff about too many people being single or not acting interested comes up, it kind of irks me.
Maybe the reason someone isn't acting interested is because he/she is not ready for that kind of commitment. You should be thankful for it, instead of complaining about it.

(sorry for going on and on)

[EllyMae]

Haha, this is a funny topic.

So far I agree with most of what's been said, so I'll just add a little bit to it.

Marriage is a huge step, which shouldn't be taken lightly. So that's probably why it (seems to be) taking longer for people to get married nowadays. Which I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with that, that's just how it is. That shouldn't be our main priority anyhow, God should be, and if we're not ready (however that may be, financially, spiritually, etc), don't push it. God is patient, let us be patient as well.

Although, something I've noticed (at least around here), I don't think youth is as serious about God as they should be. It's taking longer for young people to grow this burning desire to serve the Lord. I know everyone has their own appointed time... but I think going to church has become too much of a tradition, kids are only going to church because their parents do, not because they truely desire to serve Him. So that's why it's taking longer for young people GROW UP in the WORD. I know that's not true for everyone, but it is something that I've noticed.

When you're not right with God, everything else isn't right either. Because then people tend to take relationships too casually. They'll have tons of friends of the opposite gender and their satisfied with that. They have fun, and their not ready to give up the freedom to talk to whoever they want.

Once again, that's something I've noticed around here, I don't know what it's like in other parts of the country. Feel free to fill me in. :D Most of what I said doesn't even apply to any of you on the forums. :)

[vpiper]

Haha, this is a funny topic.

So far I agree with most of what's been said, so I'll just add a little bit to it.

Marriage is a huge step, which shouldn't be taken lightly. So that's probably why it (seems to be) taking longer for people to get married nowadays.

yeah since we tend to be living longer now,

I know a lady who dropped out of school at 16 because she figured God was coming soon so why did she need to finish school. All turned out well for her, she got married, he became a minister and they have three children and 2 grand children and 2 more on the way.

don't stop living cause Christ is coming soon, but live like Christ is coming soon.

[marichino_freedom]

exactly....live your life as if He isnt coming tommorrow, but be ready to go today

[AlanaH]

I think I agree with Skirty probably the most of everyone on here (although I do agree with pretty much everything and everyone else too.)
I hate when people ask me about my "love life". So what I don't exactly have a "serious male friend" yet? Since when is that a big deal? I am just waiting for Mr Right to show up, but that could take several more years, and so I am determined to have some fun with my life first. Is that so terribly wrong???

[HotShot53]

I'm older than all the rest of you (other than blessed), and I'm in the same position... but I saw my older brother go through too many "relationships" that just broke up and caused hurt to both sides to want to do that... so even though financially etc I could get married tomorrow, I'm in no hurry to start going out with someone just so I can be going out with someone. I'm not running from it either, though.... but when the "right one" is either not ready yet or you don't know them yet, there isn't much you can do....

[AlanaH]

That's a pretty good way of putting it...

[AgapZoe]

hmm,lol...but makes sense!!!:)