what is friendship

[joris]

simple questions ;) what is friendship? when does one become a friend? :unsure:

[JoeC]

http://jcspeaks.blogspot.com/2004/11/jc-speaks-friendships.html

Check that out and let me know if it gets the wheels churning, anyone.

[Tibs]

They are quite cool definitions - The part about needing a friend while married...I think well single it is good to have a good close friend (not as in opposite gender) , friends that except you and that you can really discuss things with, most of all talk about God and share a desire for Him. i think this helps when it comes to boy/girl relationships.

[Jezz]

Very interesting read, I have pretty much the same thoughts on friendship, I even use the word clickable when I think about friendships that just seem to have that certain spark.

As for when does one become a friend? I think they become your friend when you define them as one. Of course the friendship probably won't last very long if the other person doesn't consider you a friend.

[joris]

:unsure: many of those things you write about are all mixed up in how I experience. trying to be open as, well, living all closed is a nightmare, but lacking emotional support for trusting :sad: friendship is something difficult as it's always a leap of faith

[BroTrevor]

Faith has a lot to do with alot of things....

PROVERBS 18:24
24 ¶ A man that hath friends must shew himself friendly: and there is a friend that sticketh closer than a brother.

I think the scripture is in part saying here that, to have friends, you have to be a friend. You have to vest interest in people you want to be your friends.

If you are never friendly then people will be less inclined to be your friend. (this in part can be tagged on to the thread about the girls being "overly friendly" and such) I think people should always be nice and at least say Hi and smile. You never know what it will do.

[joris]

I had to think of this -- Jesus is my only person I can see as a intimate friend
Next to that, I had to think of this song:

Somebody here is hurting
Somebody here is broken
Somebody here is waiting
Somebody here is hoping

For love to come and unlock every door
Takes you and me to open up once more
And learn to trust again

Somebody here is searching
Somebody's dreams were stolen
Somebody's arms are reaching
Somebody needs to hold them

For love to come and unlock every door
Takes you and me to open up once more
And learn to trust again

I don't know where you come from
I don't know where you're going
I only know the healing
Starts when we stop running

For love to come and unlock every door
Takes you and me to open up once more
And learn to trust again

Peace Like a river
Joy like a fountain
Drinking the cup of my father
Flying over this mountain
It's by this guy named Jason Upton

[JoeC]

Just looked Jason Upton up on iTunes. I like him. Thanks Joris.

[already bought]

Friendship-I think this converstion has a deeper meaning for you Joris (sorry if I spelt your name wronge).
Friendship- Its not about (in my opinone) people befreinding you but how you befriend people. What I'm trying to say is that its not what every body eles dose for you but what you do for others. Ummm its kind of a hard question to find the anwers to. But if there is a question there has to be an anwer right.

[joris]

Friendship-I think this converstion has a deeper meaning for you Joris (sorry if I spelt your name wronge).uhm yeah... it has :y10: (spelling's fine :)) Friendship- Its not about (in my opinone) people befreinding you but how you befriend people. What I'm trying to say is that its not what every body eles dose for you but what you do for others. Ummm its kind of a hard question to find the anwers to. But if there is a question there has to be an anwer right.aww I find that's... trying to be with people, often it feels... like scary; and at the same time, I long for ... :confused: I don't know well how to put that under words; I long for? belonging somewhere I think? feeling safe somewhere? being appreciated? some mix of those

[already bought]

From what I am reading of you it sounds like you are really surching trying to find out where you belong. Wanting to some one to love you and except you and a place to call your own. In a way I think you are surching for some one who will understand you and you know only God will ever completly understand us. And we know that God knows all about us and understands us better then we understand our selves Why? Because He created you. I don't know if this will help you but any way.

God is there
When you think I have forgoten you
Just breath my name in prayer
When you feel like I'm a millon miles away
Remember what i said
And when your burdens seem to hard to bare
Lay it down before me
I will carry it for you
I will be there for you
For I said I would never leave you nor forsake you
And I keep my word.

Also............
What is friendship is a question you ask
Dose any one love me is something you ponder
Where Is home is what you think about
And I have the anwer for you
Friendship- I gave you my Book called the bible
Its my love letter to you
Love- I sent my son and I died for you.
I gave you my word wich can not pass away
Home- Never in this world but I prepared a place for you
Its called heave your altomit dream home.
And When satan comes against you just remember
Through me you can over come because I over came for you.
And I Yes Lord Jesus Christ I love you!!!

Aready bought-Net

[Babyruth]

Life in general can be very scary. There are so many things that can happen and you never know when something bad will happen. To lots of people, that's more than they can handle and they end up killing themselves or withdrawing and living a terribly lonely life. But to a believer, nothing should be scary. Sure, as humans, we still fear things like not being accepted and spiders! But, like Bro. Tay said last night, God is always with you and you are more than victorious! You have victory over everything and that includes fear and doubt and everything! I used to be worried about people liking me because I wasn't "cool enough" to hang out with the young people. But then I started thinking about all the friends I had/have that love me and like to do things with me. And I thought about God, who is the greatest friend ever. He made me the way I am because He wants me to be like that. He loves me for who I am because He made me. So, I decided that I didn't care what others thought, God made me special, just the way I am, and I don't worry too much about people liking me anymore. I just be myself and try not to concern myself with what others think. So, this connects to what you said about being accepted, joris. Be yourself. Become friends with God first. When you have a friendship with God, it doesn't matter if anyone else likes you. But, when you have a friendship with God, it makes you more friendly to others and more open because you want to share it with others. Thats my advice, not much, but it looks like a lot. :D

[God'schild]

i believe that if God brings someone speacial to your life we should cherish that person.
And if God brings someone along your path to be your friend except it.
I have hard time making friends. I distant myself from people.
I am nice to everyone treat them like a friend. but i only becomes friends with certain people. Sometimes it's people that have gone through what i'm going through.

I believe a true friend is someone who is there at all times.
A person that stands by you
Believes you,
A person that keeps things that you tell them to themselfs.
A true friend is someone who shares your pain lets you cry on their shoudler, someone you can lean on.
A person that crys with you,
Shares your joys.
I believe a true friend is someone who loves you no matter what you've done or will do. Loves you for who you are.

[AeP1122]

I thought this poem was fitting for the "what is friendship"

A FRIEND FROM ABOVE....

I prayed for you before we met,
Not knowing who you'd be.
I asked the Lord to send a friend.
One chosen just for me.

I asked that they'd be Godly,
With wisdom of His ways.
A friend to help and guide me
through the troubles of these days.

So often in life, we need someone
To listen while we talk.
Someone who will not condemn or judge,
But encourage us as we walk.

The narrow road we choose to follow
May sometimes make us stumble.
But to have a friend to catch our fall,
Teaches us to be humble.

When I asked the Lord to send a friend,
Though many came and went.
He gave much more than I ever asked,
For you are the friend He sent.

God Bless You All

[Babyruth]

That is beautiful!

[Angelo]

I like it too... Thanks.

[blessed]

That's really nice i like it

[joris]

ah it's nice... great posts of all of you :)

[Babyruth]

Thanks!!!!!!!!

[God'schild]

I thought this poem was fitting for the "what is friendship"

A FRIEND FROM ABOVE....

I prayed for you before we met,
Not knowing who you'd be.
I asked the Lord to send a friend.
One chosen just for me.

I asked that they'd be Godly,
With wisdom of His ways.
A friend to help and guide me
through the troubles of these days.

So often in life, we need someone
To listen while we talk.
Someone who will not condemn or judge,
But encourage us as we walk.

The narrow road we choose to follow
May sometimes make us stumble.
But to have a friend to catch our fall,
Teaches us to be humble.

When I asked the Lord to send a friend,
Though many came and went.
He gave much more than I ever asked,
For you are the friend He sent.

God Bless You All

That's an awesome poem.
reminds me of one of my close friends....

[already bought]

its beautifull thank you for posting it

[AgapZoe]

beautiful posts.i must say! thank you!

[AlanaH]

They are quite awesome, I must say!!! Good job folks.

[EllyMae]

Why is it that my parents (my mom especially) do not understand me at all? I also don't feel like they try to understand me. Any time there is an errand or some place I have to go, I often times ask my mom to come with me. She mistakes this for me not being independent, when really I would just like to have a friendship with my parents, and that's what friends do, they spend time and go places together. I'm not a child anymore, I don't have to be entirely dependent on them, but that doesn't mean that I want them out of my life. I just wish my parents would have a greater desire to have a friendship with me rather than just be my parents alone.

[BroTrevor]

Why is it that my parents (my mom especially) do not understand me at all? I also don't feel like they try to understand me. Any time there is an errand or some place I have to go, I often times ask my mom to come with me. She mistakes this for me not being independent, when really I would just like to have a friendship with my parents, and that's what friends do, they spend time and go places together. I'm not a child anymore, I don't have to be entirely dependent on them, but that doesn't mean that I want them out of my life. I just wish my parents would have a greater desire to have a friendship with me rather than just be my parents alone.

Be patient with them... after all, they've spent over 18 years now (I think you're 18ish anyhow) being your parent. It may be hard for them to transition to friendship.

And, talk to them about it, mono y mono. Adult to adult.

[HotShot53]

it's possible that your parents thinks of how they may have been at that age... and how most kids are then... it's pretty rare in the world for an 18 year old to want to hand out with her parents ;)

[EllyMae]

Ha, possibly...

Or, it could be how they were raised. You notice how parents think they have to raise you exactly how their parents raised them?

Well... I notice that in my parents.

[BroTrevor]

it's pretty rare in the world for an 18 year old to want to hand out with her parents ;)

Yeah, so many 18 yr olds are poor after all... and so it's just not typical for them to be giving hand outs all the time.

[EllyMae]

LOL

I'm not expecting my parents to be like my friends my age. I know, after all, they are my parents. Most of the time, I only get to see my really good friends on weekends when we have church. I don't have my own car, so I can't just pick up and leave whenever I want. My parents are not Christians, so for 4 or 5 days out of the week I'm not around very many Christians.

I've never really been able to talk (as in have a conversation) with my parents. By the time I became old enough to have some things that I could relate with them and be able to talk to them about (like adult things), about that time I became a Christian and my views on life totally changed. We don't have much in common, so we don't have much to talk about. Since I started working with my mom, we've had that to talk about. I would try harder to talk to my parents, but everyday when they come home from work, all they want to do is sit in the livingroom and turn on the television. I know they work hard and want to relax, but it's very hard to talk to them with the t.v. always on... Then, when I do actually get the opportunity to go somewhere and ask them to go with me, to get away from the house, they always decline.

All I can do is continue to pray that God will somehow will let me have a better relationship with my parents.

Oh, and my parents have talked about quitting smoking, so I would appreciate everyone's prayers on that!

[wiesner8300]

that's all you can is pray for them. i'm in the same bout, neither my parents are christian and are not part of the message. they barely go to church and when they do they go to presbytarian. my parents watches a lot of news and tv. my dad is alawys negative about God and everything in life general. my dad has seen many nasty tapes and movies that are against God. so when i come home i dont 'like to be downstairs because my dad doens't want to spend time with me because he wants to watch tv, and when he isnt' he is always working outside on the yard. but i did do a lot with my dad when i was younger, like baseball, bowling, pool, and a lot of boy scout outdoor activities. i'm grateful in the way that my mom or dad never harpes on what i beleive in the message. they never talk negative about it, or bad about me. they are not up and rooting for me either but my mother is positive about it and things and always supportive in what i do. and my parents do go out to eat and i do join them every once in a while, as my parents talk about tv or the world, or work. at lot of the times i sit in my room so i can get away from the tv. i can't always have conversations with God with my parents because they dont' always agree with me. escpecially dad, he never grew up in church and he always gets on my case about God and the bible. so remember, no one is alone, because God is alwasy there. also there is someone else in the mesasge that do go through the same thing, just remember that. no one is truly alone.

but i pray and i seek God and he gives me strength and endurance to go through it. he gives me courage and uplifting when i get nocked down. God helps me every bit with my family and all and it's not bad at all with God in my life

awesome poem. friends are very nice to have and they are always there when you need them, to talk to or for them to pray for me. friends are always willing to listen and help me as much as possible they are always willing to be a brother or sister in christ. i got awesome friends in this church. loving friends.

[EllyMae]

Yeah, even though my parents don't encourage me about my faith, they don't discourage me either (like my mom use to do often), which I'm thankful for.

I know there are people who have it a lot worse than I do, so I just always try to make the best out of my situation with my family. Some people's families have kicked them out of their house because of what they believe, and I am VERY thankful that hasn't happened to me.

[EllyMae]

Oh, and my parents have talked about quitting smoking, so I would appreciate everyone's prayers on that!

Well people, I didn't expect it to happen so soon, but my parents said they were starting tomorrow!!!!

Tomorrow!!

:)

[Nate]

On the subject of friendship, Doc Holiday once said to Wyatt Earp, "I'm a lousy example of a man, and I have nothing to offer you. But if you'll be my friend, I'll be there when you need me."

[HotShot53]

Well people, I didn't expect it to happen so soon, but my parents said they were starting tomorrow!!!!

Tomorrow!!

:)

I'll be praying for them, that they hold to it :)

[Babyruth]

On the subject of friendship, Doc Holiday once said to Wyatt Earp, "I'm a lousy example of a man, and I have nothing to offer you. But if you'll be my friend, I'll be there when you need me."
That is a wonderful quote. :D

Ellymae, that is wonderful. I'll be praying.

[God'schild]

that is wonderful !!!

[HotShot53]

so how are they doing so far? I would immagine the first day or two will be the hardest...

[EllyMae]

Hey, thanks everyone! I appreciate your prayers :)

Well... my dad is at work, so I'm not sure how he is doing. I'd imagine it might be kind of hard for him since I'm sure a lot of his coworkers smoke (guys who work in constuction...lol-am I stereotyping? I sure hope not...) And my mom chose this day on purpose, because she knew she would be off today and tomorrow...lol, and she appears to be doing fine. :)

OH, and she bought a BIGGG bag of those small suckers to replace the cigarettes.... lol

[blessed]

Just keep on praying and encouraging them and all will be well.

[AlanaH]

Hey, thanks everyone! I appreciate your prayers :)

Well... my dad is at work, so I'm not sure how he is doing. I'd imagine it might be kind of hard for him since I'm sure a lot of his coworkers smoke (guys who work in constuction...lol-am I stereotyping? I sure hope not...

My dad is in the construction business and it's true...a lot of his co-workers smoke and drink on the job...even though they're not supposed to.

[jtucker]

I will be praying for them, it's a hard thing to Kick. I won't go into anything to deep, But i know from experience it is a very hard thing to stop!

Don't worry though God is in control, ALL things will work out for the Good

[AlanaH]

And the thing is, the Devil will always try to bring it back to your memory at the worst times. But you just have to stay strong and keep going.

[EllyMae]

Well seems as though they aren't trying very hard...

If you know what I mean. :(

[blessed]

Keep on praying it will work out.

[jtucker]

God has everything under control, you may not see the results now or even a year from now, but commit it to God and he will have his way.

[AlanaH]

You can be assured of that! It's wonderful that we can know that God will come through in His time.

[God'schild]

God has everything under control, you may not see the results now or even a year from now, but commit it to God and he will have his way.

AMEN!!! that is so true...

[Jezz]

God has everything under control, you may not see the results now or even a year from now, but commit it to God and he will have his way.

What if his way isn't what you are praying for? then you won't have results or even if you do it might be outside his perfect will. Always remember "nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt".

I'm not referring to this specific case but just in general people tend to pray for the things they want knowing scriptures such as John 16:23 and Matthew 7:7. But it doesn't neccesarily follow that what you get given will be a help to you on your walk. It isn't always easy to know why something wouldn't be in Gods perfect will but he knows all things and what do you know? Always remember "nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt".

That said and done I'll be praying for you and your parents Elly :)

[EllyMae]

That said and done I'll be praying for you and your parents Elly :)

Thanks, I appreciate it. :)

Well, after about a week or so of not doing too well on quitting smoking, my mom says she is ready to give it another try.

So, I'm going to continue to pray for them, as always.

[jtucker]

What if his way isn't what you are praying for? then you won't have results or even if you do it might be outside his perfect will.



Well if his will does not parellel what your hoping the answer to your prayers is then you are stilling getting results. Because a no is just as valid as a Yes. Results are results, no matter if it is or isn't what you are expecting or even wanting. God will have his will regardless weither the results are in the permissive or perfect will of God, for there is nothing else. Saying there is something outside of the will of God wether it be permissive or perfect, is trying to say God does not have total control over ALL things. therefore denying very the Power and omnipotence of God.

[Jezz]

Well if his will does not parellel what your hoping the answer to your prayers is then you are stilling getting results. Because a no is just as valid as a Yes. Results are results, no matter if it is or isn't what you are expecting or even wanting. God will have his will regardless weither the results are in the permissive or perfect will of God, for there is nothing else. Saying there is something outside of the will of God wether it be permissive or perfect, is trying to say God does not have total control over ALL things. therefore denying very the Power and omnipotence of God.

That is why I said outside of his perfect will :)

And we don't want to be in his permissive will, we want to be in his perfect will. Brother Branham in South Africa went along with what those denomational men wanted from him and God allowed it but he sure didn't bless him for it. A.A. Allen locked himself away and prayed to God to give him gifts, he got gifts and died a drunkard.

All I'm saying is remember that you want to be in Gods perfect will so when you pray for something always remember to say "not my will but your will Lord", obviously you've got to do more than just say it you've got to actually want to be in his perfect will but that part is up to you.

[jtucker]

Yes i know what you mean, I wasn't attacking you. just taking your thought and adding some of mine with it. wasn't directing that towards you personally, just borrowing an excerpt from your post to allocate something that popped into my head.

I agree we always want to be in the Perfect Will of God. and we need to stay prayed up and as Peter said to Jesus when they were in the boat, Nevertheless at Thy Word

[EllyMae]

Ahh... I feel like I'm listening to a sermon hearing you guys talk. Or, seeing... :)

[Jezz]

Ahh... I feel like I'm listening to a sermon hearing you guys talk. Or, seeing... :)

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

[EllyMae]

You see the smile don't you? :rollseyes:

[Jezz]

You see the smile don't you? :rollseyes:

lol I do but it could have been a sarcastic smile though....

[joris]

Well if his will does not parellel what your hoping the answer to your prayers is then you are stilling getting results. Because a no is just as valid as a Yes.well you usually don't get a clear "no"; "yes" is you receive what you asked for, "no" is... you don't; but wait - is it "no" then, or is the "yes" still on it's way? :surrender
(yeah, this can be so very difficult)
but anyway, yeah, Lord wanting things different, you're getting a long wait

[EllyMae]

lol I do but it could have been a sarcastic smile though....

I'm not THAAAAT sarcastic. lol

And I wouldn't be sarcastic about that. :)

[EllyMae]

My dad has had this terrible cough for about a month now, and he went to the doctors and they told him he has chronic bronchitis, and that he was extremely close to going to the hospital. He's taking medication, and also quitting smoking. They told him that's the only way for him to get better, if he quit smoking. So, that's what he's doing. He really has no choice unless he wants to put his health at serious risk, which of course he doesn't want to do. Sometimes it takes something like this to realize that they need to stop smoking. Hopefully my mom will stop sometime soon too. :) Keep them in your prayers.

[HotShot53]

It sounded like your mom was wanting to quit more than your dad before this... so if he quits, she should hopefully have enough incentive to quit too :)

[EllyMae]

Oh, if he quits, there's no doubt she will quit too. The doctor told her not to smoke infront of him, and, well... after awhile she'll just get tired of that, and decide to quit as well, haha. However, she said the only reason that she isn't quitting right now with him, is because the doctor told her not to. Hmm, I wonder why? :D

[HotShot53]

However, she said the only reason that she isn't quitting right now with him, is because the doctor told her not to. Hmm, I wonder why? :D

Umm... why? I'm afraid I've never heard of a doctor saying to not quit before ;)

[EllyMae]

Well, I think he said that so none of us gets killed! Haha...

It's hard enough for 1 person to quit, let alone 2.

[HotShot53]

lol, got ya... I just assume it's harder to quit when you know the other one isn't yet...

[EllyMae]

Yeah... lol

I'd just assume she quit right now as well.

I think another reason why she is waiting, is to see what works for him.

He is on the patch right now, and she wants to wait and see if it works for him, before she goes and buys it for her too.

[NeedGod]

I quit drinking when i got saved and it wasnt easy. But guess what, your prayers will do more than any effort will. Gather your friends and ask God desperately for them to stop. tell them to keep praying for it. Works miracles. Love you dear. God Bless

[EllyMae]

Well, my dad's health has improved a whole lot, but unfortunately he gradually started smoking again. They keep talking about quitting, but just as other addictions, it's a lot easier to talk about quitting than actually doing it. But, just their desire to quit shows that they can. :) So, please continue to keep them in prayer. Thank you all.

[HotShot53]

will keep praying for them, for both their smoking and their souls....

[joris]

But, just their desire to quit shows that they can.:confused:what makes you think so? Typically an addiction is something that you can't "just quit because you want to"; if it was "just quitting" like that it wasn't much of an addiction anyway
well but if you're right I think we want to know how exactly it'll work :)

[EllyMae]

:confused:what makes you think so? Typically an addiction is something that you can't "just quit because you want to"; if it was "just quitting" like that it wasn't much of an addiction anyway
well but if you're right I think we want to know how exactly it'll work :)

Well, my pastor says this quote from Brother Branham from time to time, although I'm not sure what message it's in.

(Paraphrasing) Someone who had fallen away from the Lord asked Brother Branham if it were still possible for them to recieve the holy ghost. And he said that just their desire alone shows that they can. :)

The bible also says that He grants us the desires of our hearts. :)

[joris]

(Paraphrasing) Someone who had fallen away from the Lord asked Brother Branham if it were still possible for them to recieve the holy ghost. And he said that just their desire alone shows that they can. :)ah like that... that's true
but again, do your parents believe?

[EllyMae]

No, they're not believers.

But WE are believers. :) And we pray for them..

[SisTrev]

AMEN EllyMae! We pray and apply the Token to our house and the Lord has promised to answer our prayer. And by living the LIFE before them, they will long to be like you and have what you have.

[BroTrevor]

A deep within them, testifies there is a deep to respond!

[marichino_freedom]

AMEN EllyMae! We pray and apply the Token to our house and the Lord has promised to answer our prayer. And by living the LIFE before them, they will long to be like you and have what you have.


its been three years and that isnt working in my case.

still pray for them, and i keep living the life, but who knows if it will ever turn their hearts.

and my mom actually said to my grandma: "what if I dont want what you have in my life?"

but i guess right now, i just have to love them

[EllyMae]

its been three years and that isnt working in my case.

still pray for them, and i keep living the life, but who knows if it will ever turn their hearts.

and my mom actually said to my grandma: "what if I dont want what you have in my life?"

but i guess right now, i just have to love them

I've been a Christian for 3 and a half years, living the life infront of them, and although their beliefs haven't changed, God has softened their hearts. They are more accepting of me now, and they can tell this isn't just a "stage" in my life. That's a lot to me. All I can do is continue to live a Christian life and pray for them. I know that if they're predestinated seed, their season will come. :)

[marichino_freedom]

the thing is, my dad and stepmom still think this is a "stage".....he keeps telling me "you arent a religious person, stop pretending to be".....

and my stepmom is always like: " go get your hair cut in a cute style and get some jeans and......" blah blah blah.

my mom finally leaves me alone about it

[EllyMae]

My mom used to offer me money to cut my hair... :aaaah:

I think she has finally gave up. :D

[marichino_freedom]

mine actually bought me a gift certificate to do so....i bought hair products instead

[BroTrevor]

mine actually bought me a gift certificate to do so....i bought hair products instead

that's great... uh.. I guess...sorta...

well done anyhow...


Keep it up sisters. Your testimony is shining through, whether they want to admit it or not.

[marichino_freedom]

well, she keeps saying that she doesnt want my hair to get nasty on the bottom....but i take very good care of my hair and dont need to cut it (thats what i tell her). she just wanted to be nice i guess.

[EllyMae]

Some girls who have never even cut their hair, have beautiful hair, that nobody would think needs cut.

However, my hair has been through a lot over the years, and most people would tell me to cut my hair. But, I will never do it.

I used to be very insecure about myself when I first made that decision. My mom (unintentially I hope) would make me feel so ugly because of a few split ends. I would sit infront of the mirror and would picture myself with freshly cut hair.

I have even more split ends now than I did at that time, and they don't bother me one bit. Now that my hair is longer, I feel so much more comfortable in my own skin. Because our hair is our covering. Jesus died on the cross for us. Took many scars for us. So in a way, the split/dry/damaged ends of our hair, is kind of like our scars for Him. Our hair is a testimony in itself. It's saying, I'm living for Jesus and I'm not giving up this battle. :)

[marichino_freedom]

yup....i agree. it took her awhile, but she doesnt say much now. she says "all i have to say is that you better not let it get ratty".....but, i have faith that in never will. in God's eyes, it isn't.

i have "friends" that wonder about it...and some tease about chopping it off for me, but if they ever did that, they truely arent my friends, because if they were, they would have respected my decision

[EllyMae]

My mom has told me she was going to cut my hair while I was sleeping.

Although, I know she would never do that. It was just her expressing how much she wanted me to cut my hair.

A long time ago I had a dream that I woke up, and when I looked in the mirror my hair was short (up to my shoulders) and I started crying. And then I looked out the window, my best friends were knocking at my doors (Christians, btw, who I go to church with), and I was SO ashamed, even though I knew I didn't do it, I didn't want them to see me like that.

Maybe my mom's comments had some type of influence on that dream..

[marichino_freedom]

thats weird, because i had i dream verrrry similar to that the other night. i woke up mad! and believe me i would be if that happened.

i have spent the last 3 years trying to get it to where its at.....

[SisTrev]

all this talk about mom's wanting their daughters to cut their hair. I guess i'm wondering why it bothers them so much that you have long hair. I can understand them wanting you to trim the ends all even and such , but why a fully fledged cut? Does long hair really bother them that much?

It's gotta be hard being the only person in your family that believes. Be strong ladies and God will bless your stand!!!! And never forget that your hair is your GLORY!!!!

[EllyMae]

And never forget that your hair is your GLORY!!!!

Amen :)

About the other thing you said.. My mom loves long hair. But, she hates split ends..

[Only One Life, Live 4 GOD]

Yeah thats what everyone has a problem with (friends mainly)

[EllyMae]

Yeah, those lil' stinkers! :D

[marichino_freedom]

my stepmom told me just today that my hair is "old".....OLD hahahahahaha thats a good one.....cant be any older than me!

[Only One Life, Live 4 GOD]

Lol that is funny

[marichino_freedom]

i know....she is so silly sometimes

[vpiper]

I've been a Christian for 3 and a half years, living the life infront of them, and although their beliefs haven't changed, God has softened their hearts. They are more accepting of me now, and they can tell this isn't just a "stage" in my life. That's a lot to me. All I can do is continue to live a Christian life and pray for them. I know that if they're predestinated seed, their season will come. :)


I agree, sometimes it takes longer for some to soften, we are still praying with you Mary, God will move them or remove them one way or another. I pray for your sake a softened move.

[marichino_freedom]

Thanks vanessa.

[EllyMae]

Look at this hair!.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/klgray/Japanese%20Blogging/what_the_f.jpg

I wonder what would be her reason for not cutting her hair..

[SisTrev]

WOW!!!!! Where did you find that? That's got to be a world record or something....

[SisTrev]

So that last post about long hair made me want to find out if there was a world record...here it is.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/images/records/rhp/portrait/99247.jpg

"The world's longest documented hair belongs to Xie Qiuping (China) at 5.627 m (18 ft 5.54 in) when measured on May 8, 2004. She has been growing her hair since 1973 from the age of 13."

[marichino_freedom]

its so odd how some can grow their hair for ever, and it doesnt get past their bottom.........and some people can grow it for a while, and it gets 18 ft!!!!!!

[leahmb]

It is weird. I know some sisters who haven't cut their hair in years and it's barely to their shoulders. I think some might have to do with nationality. My dad is Mexican and I have seen some Mexican women with really long hair. At least that is why I think my and my sister's hair is as long as it is.

[marichino_freedom]

true. it probably has to do with vitamins and nutrients too.

[EllyMae]

So that last post about long hair made me want to find out if there was a world record...here it is.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/images/records/rhp/portrait/99247.jpg

"The world's longest documented hair belongs to Xie Qiuping (China) at 5.627 m (18 ft 5.54 in) when measured on May 8, 2004. She has been growing her hair since 1973 from the age of 13."

WOW, that's amazing...

Chinese women's hair must grow pretty quickly, because the girl in the picture I posted looks Chinese as well.

Think of how hard it would be to wash.. and brush.. and keep it untangled, and how heavy it must be!

[vpiper]

friendship is having really long hair? j/K

I was just wondering today while I was haning my baby's clothes on the line If there will be any real friendships that will come out of my using this forum, I will just have to what and see.

[marichino_freedom]

well, you already have me and sarah!

[leahmb]

Well, three of my best friends right now use this forum :D

[vpiper]

no one seems to be on when I can be on so it seems like I'll never get a chance to fully relate to anyone new

[Babyruth]

I'm on now. :D Like Leah said, I personally know 4 people on here. But, I have made some friends from here. I don't claim I know these people personally and really well, but, I have met people I would call online friends and should I get the chance, I would like to meet them in person. And you don't have to be online at the same time.

[HotShot53]

as ruth said, you don't have to be online at the same time to get to know someone else, it makes for a bit slower of conversations, and gives other people more room to chime in, but it works :)

[vpiper]

guess I'm getting cabin fever too

[Benoni]

You are tring every thing.......try Jesus, he will be your friend, he will set you free and he is such a wonderful friend that when other friendships cease , He is the never failing friend.

That discussion of friendship,
there is a time that comes in life when i feel all friends hate me, and dont care about me, i feel let alone in a corner and ....its bad. But i pray and God shows me the friends.. this time on, i am failing!
hmmmmmmmm

[vpiper]

yes, Jesus is my friend, and I fail him a lot of times, but it's not as much fun to go shopping with just Jesus or share photos with him. I kind of need a friend that he lives in to do stuff with, Well more friends. Growing up I had many friends and they have been weeded out over time.

[marichino_freedom]

i hear ya.

seth wants me to write to Lydia because of that......he thinks i need more friends ;)

and i do, you can never have enough "good" friends.

[vpiper]

no offense, but good luck, I think she is an awesome person and I wish she would be my friend, but she would never write me back, she seemed to be too busy. Maybe with Seth's influence She might find time for you.

[joris]

I long for Him to speak to me...
like friends do; but; oh well, it's great how, if He speaks (through people or so) it's really deep and loving; just... I long His friendship - to be real, real friendship
oh well :(

[marichino_freedom]

no offense, but good luck, I think she is an awesome person and I wish she would be my friend, but she would never write me back, she seemed to be too busy. Maybe with Seth's influence She might find time for you.


well, i havent written it yet, but seth said he'll "help" me......he thinks i'm too blaz`e in the i started.....

[marichino_freedom]

I long for Him to speak to me...
like friends do; but; oh well, it's great how, if He speaks (through people or so) it's really deep and loving; just... I long His friendship - to be real, real friendship
oh well :(


and you shall have it! those who ask, recieve!! :yay:

dont forget that

[vpiper]

well, i havent written it yet, but seth said he'll "help" me......he thinks i'm too blaz`e in the i started.....

what do you mean by Blaz'e?

it's always fun to talk to her on the phone, but then you have to have time to do that when she does.

[marichino_freedom]

well, i dont know how to spell it, but just "ho-hum" boring...blah

[AlanaH]

I would love to meet all of the people on here at one point or another. Beings we already know so much about each other anyway...:)

[God'schild]

I would love to meet all of the people on here at one point or another. Beings we already know so much about each other anyway...:)

I've met you, Babyruth and Leahmb.
Do you remember me living in BC a couple of years ago??

[AlanaH]

You've met me too, although I tended to hang out around your sister a little bit more. But yeah, we remember you!

[God'schild]

i remember. i usually hung out with Julie..

[AlanaH]

Oh yeah, I remember that.

[vpiper]

I would love to meet all of the people on here at one point or another. Beings we already know so much about each other anyway...:)
It would be fun

[blessed]

That would be neat.. I do remember throwing that idea around some time last year or early this year.

[marichino_freedom]

i concur....a sweet idea indeed

[vpiper]

it wouldn't be that hard for the people close by, like the ones in US and Canada, but . . .

[leahmb]

I would love to meet all of the people on here at one point or another. Beings we already know so much about each other anyway...:)

We've having a convention at our church in July, so everyone should come to that! :D

[vpiper]

We've having a convention at our church in July, so everyone should come to that! :D
What do you mean by Convention?

where is your church located exactly?

[EllyMae]

We're having a convention at my pastor's other church in Kentucky the last weekend in May. Everyone should come to that! Hehe..

[vpiper]

now is a convention in your vocab a church meeting?

[blessed]

yeah a convention is another word for big church meeting

[EllyMae]

Yes.. :)

Special meetings, for a weekend. Usually Friday through Sunday (well at least at my church).

[vpiper]

too bad we are trying to make it to the east coast this year, maybe next summer if you have a big meeting in Canada/Washington we can come cause We are thinking about hiking mount St. Helens if they will let us, next summer.

[leahmb]

Our church is located on the very southwest of Canada-10 minutes from the border. The meetings start July 1 and go for a week. I don't know all the details, but know the dates and that there'll be lots of services.

[jordancpeterson]

http://www.witness2007.org/ is the website for the convention (all though at the moment it is down). I plan on being there (if anyone cares to know).

[leahmb]

Is it up yet and just down or not yet up?

[vpiper]

http://www.witness2007.org/ is the website for the convention (all though at the moment it is down). I plan on being there (if anyone cares to know).

thank you
:)

[jordancpeterson]

Is it up yet and just down or not yet up?

It was up a day or two ago but seems to be down. The content of the site was the same as the flyer they sent out with the Missions Report.

[vpiper]

the brochure is up, it has audio and video streaming, so maybe we can all get together in spirit and watch it at home.