sabbat (shabbat)

[joris]

Yahweh's word says keep the sabbath day:
Ex20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
How do you see this? Are your services on saturday (original sabbat day) or sunday? This is another topic that has been on my mind lately; I haven't really investigated too much yet, but I think I believe having services on saturday would be better :confused::surrender

[JoeC]

From my understanding, the Sabbath day was a day of rest in the Old Testament. Now, the Holy Ghost is our rest (no quotes or scripture to back that up at the moment, but I'm sure they're there).

Though I certainly don't see anything wrong with setting aside the Sabbath (which would be our Sunday). I think the human body still needs a day to recuperate... and we know the spirit man needs that day under the anointing of the Word to recuperate. I'd even advocate giving up electronics one day a week - forums too! :y10:

[joris]

From my understanding, the Sabbath day was a day of rest in the Old Testament. Now, the Holy Ghost is our rest (no quotes or scripture to back that up at the moment, but I'm sure they're there). right; that's somewhere in the church ages discussions; I think it's somewhere in Hebrews, but I don't know exactly where just nowThough I certainly don't see anything wrong with setting aside the Sabbath (which would be our Sunday).Wait! Wait! why is it sunday, please? :confused:I think the human body still needs a day to recuperate... and we know the spirit man needs that day under the anointing of the Word to recuperate. I'd even advocate giving up electronics one day a week - forums too! :y10:yes; ow that of minimizing electronics crap would need some severe adaption around here ;):surrender

[Jezz]

The Jews lived under a Law principle, where we live under a Grace principle. So that scripture would no longer apply. Brother Branham said that the only reason we go to church on a Sunday is because that New Testament saints such as Paul and Peter were holding communion services on a Sunday. He said there is no scriptural evidence for having church on a Sunday, nor is there any scriptural evidence for holding church on a Saturday. Read or listen to Questions and Answers on Genesis. He goes into length on the subject.I agree with JoeC, we require a day of rest. Its convenient for it to be a saturday or sunday because of how the world works with weekends off work for most people. Sunday is just traditional.

[HotShot53]

I've heard that having church on Sunday was in honor of the resurection, since Jesus rose on the first day of the week.

[BroTrevor]

From my understanding, the Sabbath day was a day of rest in the Old Testament. Now, the Holy Ghost is our rest (no quotes or scripture to back that up at the moment, but I'm sure they're there).



1 ¶ Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 ¶ Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 ¶ Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.


This is the passage where Paul talks about it. It's easy to see that to enter into rest, (vs 10) we cease from WORKS. That'd be the keeping of days, sacrafices, this, blah, that...you name it...

I really don't think God cares what day we worship him on, but I believe setting aside one day to honor him is a good thing.

[redeemed]

amen bro trevor!

[blessed]

I have Bro Branham saying that we worship on a Sunday to honor the resurrection.

[joris]

yeah I think we are :)

[jtucker]

I really don't think God cares what day we worship him on, but I believe setting aside one day to honor him is a good thing.

I totally agree with you one this , but i also feel we should honor him every day with everything inside of us.

not saying you don't already brother trevor, just adding to what you said.

[Noe]

my pastor has a saturday evening service and a sunday morning service. so sunday people can really rest instead of get up, get ready for church, drag the kids to church half dressed:) (joking but sometimes it looks that way to a stressed out mom as it gets close to the time of leaving the house and her sweet youngins aren't cooperating very well), after service go to lunch, come home take a 2 min nap, get to church in the evening totally tired:sleep:. Now that they have changed the service days people can really rest up between services and can relax and fellowship sunday afternoon with members of the church and visitors that pass through.

BTW the jews sabbath starts sun down Fri to sun down Sat (approx 6pm) their days start from when the sun goes down.

...um.... i was going to say something else but i cant really remember what it was i wanted to say.

[BroTrevor]

I have to admit... I like the prospect of that.

Sunday evenings would be great to just relax on.

But, it's not a big deal either way I guess.

[JoeC]

ummm, wait. I take it that the Saturday evening service replaces the Sunday evening service you would otherwise have? :confused:

[Noe]

ummm, wait. I take it that the Saturday evening service replaces the Sunday evening service you would otherwise have? :confused:


Yes it does, took some getting used to. doesn't feel like Sunday without an evening service. My pastor and church is actually in the U.S.A we watch the service on the internet (they stream their services live). so their morning service is late sunday afternoon here in England, but when we went in the summer to AL it felt really weird not having an evening service on sunday but we went because of their annual summer campmeetings so we had evening services Mon through Sat. (plenty of evening services to make up for the lack of a Sun evening service

[Babyruth]

You watch our services? Neato! I'm very disappointed that there will no longer be Sunday evening services, but if we get a chance to do all the things and more that Bro. Byskal mentioned, it will be good. I love services. I feel cheated with only 1 service.

[Skirty]

Ruth, I don't think he was talking about our church. First we're not in the USA, second we don't have a Saturday service. Unless I missed something... lol

[Noe]

You watch our services? Neato! I'm very disappointed that there will no longer be Sunday evening services, but if we get a chance to do all the things and more that Bro. Byskal mentioned, it will be good. I love services. I feel cheated with only 1 service.


Ruth i'm not getting what your saying.
Al= Alabama

[JoeC]

who's the pastor there, Noe?

[Noe]

who's the pastor there, Noe?

Pastor Steven. L. Shelley

[Babyruth]

I do believe that college has turned my mind to mush. It must be all those dumb smokers. I didn't read your post all the way Noe. Sorry. Forgive me. They have the same set-up as our church. I'm just used to people watching our services and we are not in the US, I forgot. We are in Canada. So, I think old age has finally set in. Ignore my previous post, delete it if you want.

[AlanaH]

It's ok, I thought she was talking about ours too for a moment, but then she said U.S and the letters AL.
Steven Shelley? I think I've heard of him...did he move from Georgia once upon a time? Just curious...

[joris]

So, I think old age has finally set in.I'm sure it's not your age ;)

[Noe]

It's ok, I thought she was talking about ours too for a moment, but then she said U.S and the letters AL.
Steven Shelley? I think I've heard of him...did he move from Georgia once upon a time? Just curious...


yes he did he had a church in columbus and a campground (where they had there summer services) in Smith Station, but they sold the church in columbus and built a proper church in Smith Station

[jordancpeterson]

Brother Steven Shelley... been a long time since I heard him preach. :)

[Noe]

Brother Steven Shelley... been a long time since I heard him preach. :)

You heard him preach??
When was that exactly??

[jordancpeterson]

Years and years ago when he was out in Arizona. He preached several times at our church and at a church in Phoenix over a period of several years.

[jordancpeterson]

I should say probably in the early to mid 90's (guessing).

[AlanaH]

That's when we heard him. We still lived in Florida, but we would go to the services in Murfreesboro when Bro. Ed went there. I think that was in like early 90s too...he took like a morning service or something. I was really too little to remember, but my mom does.

[Only One Life, Live 4 GOD]

we are keeping the sabbath Holy by going to church we are honoring christ its His day of rest our day of rest we rest in the spirit and refill our cups with his spirit and grace thats why its a sunday

[Noe]

I should say probably in the early to mid 90's (guessing).

1993 was when we first meet him, and he has preached at my Grandad's church several times when he has come to England. We go to his church when we are in the U.S.