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AndrewMichael
05-10-2006, 12:59 AM
Something really awesome has happened to me lately. Ever time I have thought something like "wow, she's cool, maybe I should get to know her more" or anything to that line, the Lord has slammed the door shut on me.
First, a girl starts courting a guy after I started talking to her a lot and then realizing this guy was there the whole time. Second, on the internet seeing a picture and talking a little bit, had a thought, next day a guy is courting her....hmmm..... And then once more, I had the smallest thought in the world about a girl and I find out she is interested in someone else. Blah!.....blah indeed!
But I believe the Lord is just making me trust Him and forget about the whole "looking" idea and just walk by faith instead. Anyone else gotta story like this? If not, I'm sure in a few replys we'll be way off subject anyway, so let's have fun!
:swinging:
jtucker
05-10-2006, 01:09 AM
well the only thing i can say is wow God id Great isn't he!
i used to think of this one young lady all the time but then just like a month ago God took her off my heart, and i have been able to enter into a must more excellent walk with Christ. everytime i think of her he just redirects my thoughts on him. so i believe that right now is not the time for me to being looking or even thinking of looking, though i yearn for a mate, that longing is replaced with the Glory of the Lord. maybe i'm not to be with that particular girl or it's not time. either way i'm fine, he's taken my worries and tears and replaced them with joy and a light heartedness i never knew. i love how he keeps shaping us and bringin us closer to him and soon once the vessel he is crafting is done but it doesn't sit on the shelf yet it is filled and put to use!
HotShot53
05-10-2006, 01:40 AM
If not, I'm sure in a few replys we'll be way off subject anyway, so let's have fun!
:swinging:
Lol, very true ;)
But to stay on topic, yes, that has happened to me a couple times too.... the problem is that not everyone I've considered has someone else they like, so I don't always have the easy out ;)
joris
05-10-2006, 08:40 AM
I know that... a bit; though some times there wasn't just someone else, just her not being interested;
it's been like very painfull, especially when I didn't believe yet
now, I hope things stay as they are and I'll have zero attention to girls like that, untill (unless) God wants me to get married
I know that... a bit; though some times there wasn't just someone else, just her not being interested;
it's been like very painfull, especially when I didn't believe yet
now, I hope things stay as they are and I'll have zero attention to girls like that, untill (unless) God wants me to get married
Amen to that!
But to stay on topic, yes, that has happened to me a couple times too.... the problem is that not everyone I've considered has someone else they like, so I don't always have the easy out ;)
Hey, maybe this is bad advice. but just because a girl likes someone besides you doesn't make her out of bounds. If the guy isn't paying her any attention you should feel free to try your hand. Crushes are crushable. :chris:
I hope that doesn't come across wrong. But really, its for the girls' sakes too. If every guy considers them off limits just because they have some unrequited love going on some girls might never get married! There was a girl I know who had a long time crush on a guy. I told her (as a brother and friend) "Hey, he's the guy. He's got to be the one to make that first move. What if he never does and you're blind to the guys around you who are interested and would make a wonderful husband for you? You'd be missing out." Seriously.
HotShot53
05-10-2006, 09:08 PM
Hey, maybe this is bad advice. but just because a girl likes someone besides you doesn't make her out of bounds. If the guy isn't paying her any attention you should feel free to try your hand. Crushes are crushable. :chris:
Lol, yeah, crushes don't usually last forever.... But knowing that they like someone else kind of puts a damper on your liking them ;)
EllyMae
05-10-2006, 09:15 PM
Yeah very confusing...
You like someone, and you find out that they like someone, but maybe that someone doesn't like them, so you don't know if you should keep liking them or get over them, etc etc etc... Only time will tell...
Haha
Lol, yeah, crushes don't usually last forever.... But knowing that they like someone else kind of puts a damper on your liking them ;)
Ah, but what if you end up unlucky and like someone who has a "long term" crush? In a situation like that, I would just stay around the person, maybe drop a few subtle hints, and see if they come around.
AndrewMichael
05-10-2006, 11:45 PM
Personally, the reason I backed off is because I don't want that girl to get real confused and just be a stumbling block to her. I have faith that if she is supposed to be with me, she won't like the other guy and eventually will have to come to me, as long as I rest in the Lord, believing He has already provided a mate.
Seriously, I think it might almost take an angel from heaven to come down and point to her for me before I take a step, just soo much you can destroy through feelings and emotions (in which I have been a victim of) that I'll admit, the situation scares me a little bit. Faith does have to take risks or it is not faith. We have to go beyond our own reasonings sometimes and just act in faith. Hopefully, I will see the Lord's hand when He wants to hand me my mate!
Do as the Lord leads then. :thumbup:
redeemed
05-11-2006, 01:06 AM
amen joe!:)
AndrewMichael
05-11-2006, 11:27 AM
This is totally off topic, but I picked up JoeC that you go to Bro Paul Lafontaines chuch in Toledo and I am actually planning on attending there not this sunday, but the following. The Campbells and the Dillards were the members of the Message church that I got born again in. I miss them and was coming so I could also see them, but don't let me forget to meet you bro.
Sure thing. By the way, whose church do the Campbells & the Dillards attend?
AndrewMichael
05-11-2006, 12:02 PM
haha well, they starting going to your church sometime ago, Grace, Bek, Brad Campbell.....Tom and Mary Dillard, who are like my grand-parents, maybe you don't know them, that's ok.
Our church used to be in Angola, IN and my family and there's was about the whole church. Miss those little meetings a little bit having been attending Believer's Christian Fellowship, which is relatively large.
Oh, right! I know the Campbells by first name. The Dillards I've seen, but haven't met. I've got 'em placed now though. :ok:
AndrewMichael
05-11-2006, 12:08 PM
I was going to say, maybe your on these forums a little TOO much! :tongue_sm
lol. Nah, I do get out. I'm not a troll. :chris:
AndrewMichael
05-11-2006, 12:44 PM
Ok, one more thought back on our initial subject....
What really is the first step? I have started to feel that if both don't recognize "it" between themselves, before anyone says "I like you", then things tend to work out properly. Most people try to get the cart before the horse, and many other complications (which I went into pretty good detail on my xanga a while back) but since I have never courted anyone in a Christian relationship, the beginning was the most confusing part to me.
You need to come to Winter Youth Retreat. They talk all about it. Of course there's other reasons for coming - it's just an all around great camp! Tucker'll tell ya.
jtucker
05-11-2006, 08:07 PM
Brother Andrew if there was anything i could suggest for you to do any convintion any meetings to go to, wyr would be it. it is powerful and amazing,the fellowship, the services the worship oh like nothing out there, only God could orchestrate such a wonderful and amazing convention. That's were God sealed me with a zeal i have never known before that time. he opened to me revelations of his majesty and glory, of my calling and of the sealing if the Holy Spirit. i know that of all of them that God moves the most powerfully in wyr because the youth are so open to the truth, as well as those who aren't get their toes smashed that their hearts may be made whole in Christ. it's an annointed meeting(not that the other ones aren't) during the the meetings you could feel the presence of the lord just flow into the building so softly and sincerely. he's so sweet and precious! i wish i could tell you in person so it would all make sense.. oh brother there is non meeting like wyr that i know of! it's so great!
HotShot53
05-11-2006, 10:18 PM
Ok, one more thought back on our initial subject....
What really is the first step? I have started to feel that if both don't recognize "it" between themselves, before anyone says "I like you", then things tend to work out properly. Most people try to get the cart before the horse, and many other complications (which I went into pretty good detail on my xanga a while back) but since I have never courted anyone in a Christian relationship, the beginning was the most confusing part to me.
Lol, I completely agree the first step is the hardest... one of the reasons I haven't taken it yet ;) (Besides the fact I wouldn't know whom to take it with...)
And I definately agree that WYR is the best camp out there... last year was my first time going, and I wish I hadn't missed all the previous years...
Oh yes!!! I'll be going next year!!!
AndrewMichael
05-12-2006, 01:54 AM
I'll definitely be planning that then....I know I'll have college off, its just getting work off (snicker....ok that will probably be even easier)
Something really awesome has happened to me lately. Ever time I have thought something like "wow, she's cool, maybe I should get to know her more" or anything to that line, the Lord has slammed the door shut on me.
First, a girl starts courting a guy after I started talking to her a lot and then realizing this guy was there the whole time. Second, on the internet seeing a picture and talking a little bit, had a thought, next day a guy is courting her....hmmm..... And then once more, I had the smallest thought in the world about a girl and I find out she is interested in someone else. Blah!.....blah indeed!
But I believe the Lord is just making me trust Him and forget about the whole "looking" idea and just walk by faith instead. Anyone else gotta story like this? If not, I'm sure in a few replys we'll be way off subject anyway, so let's have fun!
:swinging:
I've had a similar experience. Towards the end of last year I started to become closer to God and really started to become a child of God rather than a grandchild as Brother Branham talked about once. A grandchild being somebody who goes to church because their mother or father did. Thats why I went, i was born into the Message, didnt know anything else so it took me a long time (18 years) to find that it was really what I was looking for all along. When that happened all my worldly friends started to drift away... pretty much for no reason, i didnt change at all they just started having problems with me and our friendships ended. The Lord took them away from me, which I am very thankful for because they were a bad influence on my walk. He knew what I had need of, how wonderful it is to have an omnipotent God on your side! :D
AndrewMichael
05-12-2006, 10:35 AM
When that happened all my worldly friends started to drift away... pretty much for no reason, i didnt change at all they just started having problems with me and our friendships ended. The Lord took them away from me, which I am very thankful for because they were a bad influence on my walk. He knew what I had need of, how wonderful it is to have an omnipotent God on your side! :D
Definitely feeling ya on this one. All but one of my friends from high school talks to me anymore because all they talked about was drinking and girls and of course, I wasn't afraid to tell them it was wrong.... And usually correct their language a few times!
But it is good to know that they were nothing compared to the friend I gained in Jesus!:dft010:
jtucker
05-13-2006, 04:07 AM
my friends won't leave, i witness and share truth but they stick around, the are still refusing the truth so i keep witnessing to them, but i do find myself ditsancing myself form them to were it's more of an aquintance now so i don't know.
joris
05-16-2006, 10:44 AM
I'm still not very capable of witnessing :sad:
AndrewMichael
05-16-2006, 12:45 PM
Well of course not, none of us are. Christianity has nothing to do with self-will (we will always fail this way), but by surrender. If we totally surrender to the Spirit, this is when He uses us. I have noticed that lately conversations have come up about God that I didn't even prevoke, but I have taken these times to realize that the Holy Spirit leads these people, and I need not force my witness on them. Like yesterday at a work, a guy asked me about how he didn't think that they ate fruit in the garden of Eden, and I said neither do I, and had a chance to preach some Serpent Seed. God uses you all the time, it's if you are willing to surrender or not. Hope this helps bro.
joris
05-16-2006, 01:47 PM
a guy asked me about how he didn't think that they ate fruit in the garden of Eden, and I said neither do Iheh, first time I read that sentence, I thought, well what were they eating then? :D
anyway...
guess... me seeing I've really missing out chances easily, even just last week... :sad:
guess I'd be get nowhere if one needed to do anything to deserve something:confused:
AndrewMichael
05-16-2006, 02:08 PM
guess I'd be get nowhere if one needed to do anything to deserve something:confused:
I think you lost me here....Did you get a chance to read my reply to "What was the Holy Ghost given for?" I remembered about you and wanted you to see a part of a certain quote...
joris
05-16-2006, 03:07 PM
I think you lost me here....Did you get a chance to read my reply to "What was the Holy Ghost given for?" I remembered about you and wanted you to see a part of a certain quote...hmm if He is my witness... how come...
guess He's preparing me? or what; why am I still not seeing me be... a witness
oh well, I guess, must be He is first restoring me; must remember if I can't see Him working, it's because He's still working on my own heart, before using me more to reach out? :confused:
AndrewMichael
05-17-2006, 12:04 AM
hmm if He is my witness... how come...
guess He's preparing me? or what; why am I still not seeing me be... a witness
oh well, I guess, must be He is first restoring me; must remember if I can't see Him working, it's because He's still working on my own heart, before using me more to reach out? :confused:
I know we have valleys, and sometimes we feel like we just don't make quota, but we have the assurance with the baptism of the Holy Ghost that God will use us.
He is your witness. Anyone who testifies of themselves and not Christ is putting theirselves in the way of Christ. We must submit to His Spirit so He can give His own testimony. Ever heard in church "Lord, give glory to thyself." We can't praise God ourselves, we must submit to His Holy Spirit which cries out to God. Don't let the devil getcha down bro, he's always there to try and ruin what God is doing.
marichino_freedom
05-17-2006, 12:33 AM
not to mention he's got a ton of helpers to wreak havok, too....it can be daunting, but it makes the reward in the end that much better
chocolateismybestfriend
05-18-2006, 05:21 AM
I'm still not very capable of witnessing :sad:
with your words you are being a witness.
with every action you take, or do not take you are being a witness.
People notice the smaller things in life.
People notice i take walks in a long skirt and with long hair - thats being a witness.
People notice i dont swear at work - totally being a witness
People notice i always decline to hang out and drink after work, they ask why and i tell them its not edifying to my soul - thats a witness.
You dont have to be the person who goes around and tries to bring everyone to Jesus, who shouts Hallejuah Glory to God all day on the street corner to be a witness - although you can do that if you feel led to.
Be a witness with your life.
marichino_freedom
05-18-2006, 10:39 PM
amen to that! i dont necessarily talk about my faith with my family, but by doing the previously mentioned things, i too am witnessing (whether they like it or not!!)
jtucker
05-18-2006, 11:56 PM
Amen i say to you Sister, it's not always that person standing on that soap box nor the one handing out tracks that is the only wtiness but our lives are to be constant eitnesses of the Love of Jesus
joris
05-19-2006, 07:10 AM
well that was what preach was about this week... but... :confused: (well; whether it's true or not, I continually feel as failure, whether I try and do something, or not)
joris
05-19-2006, 11:45 AM
a little "tips to get closer to God" thingy, says (translating now),
"We are proud of our car, our garden, of the things we accomplished, and of our children. We love to show these to others and show how great they really are. But when it's about God, things may be a bit different. We are a bit afraid to show we're children of God - what if you're being critisized, what if you're seen as fanatics?..." (with matthew 10:32,33)
that's a poor translation by the way; it'll have to do I guess :confused:
well, there you have the thing, I'm not proud of things, (too many times I feel like, all I do, it's all failures) and I long for this struggling hard time to end, and I'll be in heaven; but despite of me not seeing me do anything worth the trouble, God still has some plan
:surrender
PianoMan79
05-22-2006, 12:00 AM
Something really awesome has happened to me lately. Ever time I have thought something like "wow, she's cool, maybe I should get to know her more" or anything to that line, the Lord has slammed the door shut on me.
First, a girl starts courting a guy after I started talking to her a lot and then realizing this guy was there the whole time. Second, on the internet seeing a picture and talking a little bit, had a thought, next day a guy is courting her....hmmm..... And then once more, I had the smallest thought in the world about a girl and I find out she is interested in someone else. Blah!.....blah indeed!
But I believe the Lord is just making me trust Him and forget about the whole "looking" idea and just walk by faith instead. Anyone else gotta story like this? If not, I'm sure in a few replys we'll be way off subject anyway, so let's have fun!
:swinging:
I know I'm late to this, but I just had to jump in!
I'm glad I am not the only one who has had this experience. It has happened to me on numerous occasions, and I have always felt the same way - broken hearted, but also knowing that someone better may come along some day.
Great topic!
PianoMan79
05-22-2006, 12:06 AM
Woopse, I guess that was off the current topic. Sorry (I should have read the last page of the thread first!)
joris
05-23-2006, 12:38 PM
heh, you were offtopic because you were ontopic but we were offtopic :-p
AndrewMichael
05-23-2006, 12:56 PM
I know I'm late to this, but I just had to jump in!
I'm glad I am not the only one who has had this experience. It has happened to me on numerous occasions, and I have always felt the same way - broken hearted, but also knowing that someone better may come along some day.
Great topic!
Hey hey, no apologies needed for this one, its good to have someone bring us back on topic.
I was a little upset when I found all these answers (though even now some are still up in the air) but I'm glad that the doors get shut because this is a decision that I do not want to make a mistake at! And (even though this has been discussed) I believe that the Lord has one mate for me, and I seek that one will, and nothing short of that.
Why is this so confusing?? I believe because no one has an answer. Courtship and marriage are more a miracle to me than divine healing, I just don't think we can really understand how it works, but alas it does. It's a paradox that's for sure...
jtucker
05-23-2006, 01:13 PM
Amen courtship and marriage is only truely possible by God's ultimate grace
HotShot53
05-23-2006, 01:53 PM
this is a decision that I do not want to make a mistake at!
That is so true.... a couple days ago I was chatting with someone, and he is having like major problems with his wife... but he's married now, so there is no going back.
blessed
05-23-2006, 01:56 PM
I think a lot of people don't realise the seriousness of marriage. To me Love even thought it is a requirement, is not enough to get married it MUST be the will of the Lord, and knowing this requires unbaised prayer and that's the difficult part.
jtucker
05-23-2006, 02:17 PM
I agree with you sister
collegegirl
05-29-2006, 04:42 PM
Unbiased prayer....Wow! Puts a whole different light on things.
As for the witnessing, I have talked to ppl before about the Lord, and have even gotten one of them to come to Bible study. I have invited a couple of people from work to church, but we shall see if the Lord moves on their hearts.
Has anyone ever read the book "I kissed dating Goodbye"? Wonderful book written by Joshua Harris, which is his story of dating, and how he gave up dating because....well, I will let you read the story. He bases what he believes around Christ, and gives scripture verses and such to back it up. I would definately reccomend it. I have yet to read the sequel "Boy meets Girl", which is his story of how he met his wife.
I have just lent "I kissed dating goodbye" to one of the servers at work because he had told me that he came from a home where his parents had been married for quite a while, (20+ years) and how he wanted that kind of marriage, but how he was scared to make that great of a committment. He has also told me that he likes new and challenging ideas, so given what the world has been feeding him for 21 years, I figure this book will definately give him that different way of thinking. And then I plan on sharing perhaps one of Bro. Branham's life story books with him. We'll see how the Lord leads it all.
BroTrevor
05-29-2006, 05:32 PM
To me Love even thought it is a requirement, is not enough to get married it MUST be the will of the Lord, and knowing this requires unbaised prayer and that's the difficult part.
I talked about Love in Sunday School yesterday. I believe true love... (and not the movie kind...the Godly kind) is enough because that comes from God. (God is love after all)
But the emotional, goooby gooby goooshy, "love" is definitely not enough. I agree whole heartedly with blessed tho, it MUST be the will of the Lord, and the only way to find out is the "nevertheless not my will but thine" kind of prayer which is hard to do in a relationship filled with gooshy emotions.
Has anyone ever read the book "I kissed dating Goodbye"? Wonderful book written by Joshua Harris, which is his story of dating, and how he gave up dating because....well, I will let you read the story. He bases what he believes around Christ, and gives scripture verses and such to back it up. I would definately reccomend it. I have yet to read the sequel "Boy meets Girl", which is his story of how he met his wife.
I just mentioned that book in the "what's the difference" thread...I've been thinking about reading it.. (for counseling purposes, not becuase I need it.)
I talked about Love in Sunday School yesterday. I believe true love... (and not the movie kind...the Godly kind) is enough because that comes from God. (God is love after all)
We don't experience Agapae love (Godly love) towards our wife, fiance, girlfriend etc do we? From my understanding that is only a Felio (spelling?) love, an earthly love. Agapae love is different, that is God's love, that is when Brother Branham loved that bull that was charging him, or when he loved those wasps after he disturbed their nest. Many people in the world love their partners, but its only Felio love, thats the kind of love we feel towards our friends and family. But we don't experience Agapae love towards them from my understanding, so love isn't enough is it?
HotShot53
05-30-2006, 12:58 AM
My brother read that book way back when he was dating, though I don't know how much of the advice he actually followed, unfortunately... but the book should be around somewhere. I should read it sometime soon, I guess....
jtucker
05-30-2006, 01:10 AM
well just because we marry them doesn't mean we stopp seeing them as a child of God through the love of Christ but we also love them as our wives in feelio love
Angelo
05-30-2006, 07:43 PM
We don't experience Agapae love (Godly love) towards our wife, fiance, girlfriend etc do we? From my understanding that is only a Felio (spelling?) love, an earthly love. Agapae love is different, that is God's love, that is when Brother Branham loved that bull that was charging him, or when he loved those wasps after he disturbed their nest. Many people in the world love their partners, but its only Felio love, thats the kind of love we feel towards our friends and family. But we don't experience Agapae love towards them from my understanding, so love isn't enough is it?
If Bro Branham was inspired with Agapao love by the Spirit of God towards "the bull", will it be then exceptional or impossible for God not to give His sons ability to love their wives with an Agapao love? I think, if a brother treats his wife according to God's word, then that is Agapao, because a man or a woman can only live a life according to the word if he/she has the Spirit of God, so then if a pair is both genuine Christians, they are loving each other with an Agapao love, and their marriage is made holy before God. Is it not commanded that men should love their wives as Christ loved the church?
BroTrevor
05-30-2006, 08:31 PM
If Bro Branham was inspired with Agapao love by the Spirit of God towards "the bull", will it be then exceptional or impossible for God not to give His sons ability to love their wives with an Agapao love? I think, if a brother treats his wife according to God's word, then that is Agapao, because a man or a woman can only live a life according to the word if he/she has the Spirit of God, so then if a pair is both genuine Christians, they are loving each other with an Agapao love, and their marriage is made holy before God. Is it not commanded that men should love their wives as Christ loved the church?
Booom.
Angelo for forum chaplain. This guy is good!
If Bro Branham was inspired with Agapao love by the Spirit of God towards "the bull", will it be then exceptional or impossible for God not to give His sons ability to love their wives with an Agapao love?
I don't think that God neccesarily has to give you the ability to love your wife with Agapao love.
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E-36 Now watch, hold that in your mind. Sometimes you don't know what compassion means, friend. The people are so...?... bound, they don't understand heavenly things. We don't. See, compassion is to do the will of God, not--not sympathy. There's a lot of difference between sympathy and compassion. Now watch Him.
Just like love. Love comes in two categories. We know it: one. The two Greek words, one of them is--is Agapao, and the other one is Phileo. The Phileo love is earthly; like friendship. Agapao love is of above. Just listen to this. Phileo love is what you have for your wife, your children: that's Phileo. Now, if someone insulted your wife, that kind of a love would make you kill him, the man that insulted your wife. That's Phileo. But Agapao love would make you pray for his lost soul. That's the difference.
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E-27 Now, there's two different kinds of love: there's human love, which in a Greek word is a--is a Phileo love. And then Agapao love is the--is the high love or Divine love.
Now, you take like the phileo love, when we have that, love, a mother for her baby will drive her right straight to a flaming fire to save that baby's life. It'll make a man, for his sweetheart, lay down his life any time. See, what I mean? It's... That's just human love.
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I--I still wouldn't do it, because I love her too much to do that. I--I--I love her; I wouldn't hurt her, yet she'd forgive me. I know it would scar her heart, if I did something was wrong. And if I think that with a Phileo love, of human love towards my wife, how much more ought I to my Saviour? No matter what would be this, that, I want to please Him; I want to love Him. And I want Him to be able to say, "That's My servant. I can tell him to go here, and he will do it."
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E-45 Men and women, hear me today as your brother. Let all your little isms and your little sensations drop; find the love of God. I'd rather have His love than every gift He's got in His Kingdom. Give me His love. That's what the world is looking for today, is to see a display of real love. It'll win souls when you got love. They can tell it when you got love. We got to much make-believe love. We got too much, a--a love, a phileo love, trying to make it agapao love. We need real godly love.
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39 Now, genuine love for God, "No matter what part I am, Lord, if I can only say a word for It, help protect It, let me do that." See?
That's the same thing would be about your wife. If you really love her, see, it's not a--it's not a--a phileo love; it's an Agapao love, a genuine love. She could live with somebody else, happier; you're not married now, course, you can't.
The last quote is the only one I found to say we love our wives with an Agapao love. In the quotes I found, Brother Branham talks about Agapao love in terms of how we love God and Jesus Christ. I'll have to look into this a bit more I think.
BroTrevor
05-30-2006, 10:41 PM
HEAR.YE.HIM_ SOUTH.BEND.IN SUNDAY_ 58-0209A
E-45 Men and women, hear me today as your brother. Let all your little isms and your little sensations drop; find the love of God. I'd rather have His love than every gift He's got in His Kingdom. Give me His love. That's what the world is looking for today, is to see a display of real love. It'll win souls when you got love. They can tell it when you got love. We got to much make-believe love. We got too much, a--a love, a phileo love, trying to make it agapao love. We need real godly love.
CHRIST.IS.REVEALED.IN.HIS.OWN.WORD_ JEFF.IN V-4 N-10 SUNDAY_ 65-0822M
39 Now, genuine love for God, "No matter what part I am, Lord, if I can only say a word for It, help protect It, let me do that." See?
That's the same thing would be about your wife. If you really love her, see, it's not a--it's not a--a phileo love; it's an Agapao love, a genuine love. She could live with somebody else, happier; you're not married now, course, you can't.
"make believe love... we need real godly love."
Call it whatever you want to call it...I believe that God can give you that type of love for your wife. It's not some worked up emotion, but it is something that lasts through eternity.
Excellent quote researchage....btw
NoahL
05-31-2006, 06:41 PM
Phileo love is what you have for your wife, your children: that's Phileo. Now, if someone insulted your wife, that kind of a love would make you kill him, the man that insulted your wife. That's Phileo. But Agapao love would make you pray for his lost soul. That's the difference.
I think here it implies that christians should strive to love their wife with Agapao love, not just Phileo.
DO.YOU.NOW.BELIEVE_ MACON.GA FRIDAY_ 55-0610
E-27 Now, there's two different kinds of love: there's human love, which in a Greek word is a--is a Phileo love. And then Agapao love is the--is the high love or Divine love.
Bro. Branham has always said Christian means "Christ like" so then as a Christian, shouldn't we be able to display the Christ like, or "Divine" love?
Angelo
05-31-2006, 11:30 PM
Booom.
Angelo for forum chaplain. This guy is good!
Nobody's good but God. :)
God bless....
BroTrevor
05-31-2006, 11:32 PM
Nobody's good but God. :)
God bless....
Ah yes my brother...
But is He not in YOU?
I was complimenting the God in you.!
:)
andrew i agree with you its so confusing, it causes heartbreaks and one can end up making wrong choices.coz some girls will say,i have someone in mind,just to put a guy off coz they aint ready or they have this feeling this is not the kinda guy i wanna hang out with.
but down the line they end up regretting coz the guy was serious,and wanted to marry...as soon as the guy marries,they are like....i liked him but thought it wasnt the right time.
i think we ought to have some concrete reason before dismissing someone!
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