squeezing time.

[Angelo]

Is there anybody who wants to talk about it?

[Angelo]

CHRIST.IS.THE.MYSTERY.OF.GOD.REVEALED_ JEFF.IN V-3 N-7 SUNDAY_ 63-0728
416 And they're going to bring a persecution on, pretty soon, and shut up all the churches. You see that. And churches like this, who is not denomination, they'll use them for a storehouse, anything. And if any man goes and offer a prayer for anybody else that don't belong to the ecumenical movement, will be shot on the spot. It's already. That Lutheran minister, the head of it, said so. And it's right here, You can read it right here in your magazine. Right.
417 Don't make any difference what they say, that Church will stand true in this Light. She's already proved it back yonder, and She'll do it again in the face of everything. It's the Word of God. And they, all ecumenical movements and everything else, will be gone. She is going to be There without spot or wrinkle. That's right. She'll stand there.


274-2 SARDISEAN.CHURCH.AGE - CHURCH.AGE.BOOK CPT.7
As Israel (chosen people of God) in majority forfeited their rights in the Book of Life by rejecting Jesus, so the majority of the Gentile church will also come into condemnation with the resultant removal of their names from the Book of Life by rejecting the Word and thereby entering into the world ecumenical movement which is the image erected unto the beast.

[SpamBoy]

did something happen to you recently to bring up this topic?

are you feeling like orange juice? :laugh:

-SpamBoy
"mmmm freshly squeeezed spam juice over cheese doodles."

[BroTrevor]

Without spot or wrinkle!!!

Or pulp!


Praise God!!

[Angelo]

I just want to hear your ideas about it. Current events, expected signs and personalities that will indicate the event, scripture. I have some ideas myself but I think it would be better to hear your views also.

[Angelo]

Ok, let's start at this question.

When do you think they'll persecute the foolish virgins?

[Angelo]

did something happen to you recently to bring up this topic?

are you feeling like orange juice? :laugh:

-SpamBoy
"mmmm freshly squeeezed spam juice over cheese doodles."

It just came in my mind, the speaker passed by hte topic on our prayer meeting.

[trumpetplayer]

Does not Bro Branham say that the Bride must go through persecution. It has already happened in some parts of the world, I wonder when it will happen here in North America. I mean people already see us as a "cult".

[SpamBoy]

I'm a proud branamite, thank goodness I'm not a hittite and I really look silly in any tights, period. :crazy:

II TIMOTHY 3:12
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

PHILIPPIANS 3:10
10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

I believe were all under some type of squeeze. In America it's an ecnomic squeeze. I'm sure it's different in other places in the world.

I guess all I know is it's either "coming" or it's "here" and I say BRING IT ON.. it just means were that much closer to leaving this spamhouse.... errr pesthouse.

-SpamBoy
"I live in a spamhouse filled with pests."

[SpamBoy]

oh I forgot - the squeeze is ment to bring us together. unseparable. share eachothers chewing gum ( not just coffee JoeC ;-) ) for brothers to chat with brothers (and not just sisters) :laugh:

I think it's sad that a squeeze needs to happen before we really jell together.
of coures in my own life it seems to take an emergency to get on my knees more than once a day... oh wait that is from old age. :huh:

I guess now that I think what the Voice of Revelations 10:7 said was a warning for those that did not join in with the ecumenical council of churches would come under pressure

PHILADELPHIAN.CHURCH.AGE - CHURCH.AGE.BOOK CPT.8
As this pressure increases, and it will, it will be harder to resist, for to resist is to lose privilege. And so many will be tempted to go along, for they will feel it is better to serve God publicly in the framework of this organization than not to serve God at all publicly. But they err. To believe the devil's lie is to serve Satan, even though you may want to call him Jehovah. But the elect will not be deceived.

remember friends, that mark of the beast is in the hand and forhead. rub your two fingers together with your thumb, it's a universal sign of money - that mark is giving money to the whore church, the mark in your forehead is giving your mind over to that church publically - meaning, you might not outright join with with them but because you have your own programs, radio shows and stuff going on and you need some type of license todo that, in your mind you say "I don't agree with everything but I need to share Christ so I will go along with it..."

for a real believer we seperate from that and stick to the pure Word of God. you don't hear that much nowadays - a people that keep God's Word NO MATTER WHAT! I could go on and on how Grace has allowed us this great insight into the Mind of God. and on the flip side - how responsible we are to It.

I dare not post more so not to offend some. :undecided:

-SpamBoy
"FOR ME - the bare fisted Gospel, tear the hide off me for I know that only Christ will last and only the Character of Him will make it to heaven. I want SpamBoy beaten out and Christ beaten in. See, now that is a different view then our Catholic friends. Nothing I do can can make God love me more and nothing I can do can make God love me less. OH MY the Deep Calls to the Deep and I can always love Him more by simply surrendering my own will and obey His Word. what a simple Gospel."

[NeedGod]

i find you so funny spam boy. you say something serious in a funny yet serious way(how does he do that?)
anyhow, the squeeze began. look at the way everyone is corrupt. you cant be corrupt with them, you are fired. no job for a straight person.
food cant be afforded if you have no job...etc. it is coming, just watch the way the world is going!
and here in Kenya, the matatu culture really makes me feel squeezed. a matatu is a version of a bus only they are mostly vans with loud music and perverse graffiti. and that is all we can use for transport. cars are too expensive coz of taxes at the port. they are usually 2-3 times their normal prices

[BroTrevor]

Well, Peter had a squeeze...

Perhaps ours will be similar

HE.END.TIME.EVANGELISM_ JEFF.IN V-10 N-5 SUNDAY_ 62-0603
195 Peter had a sword. He pulled that sword was going to cut the high priest's ears off, and things like that; he did it. But when it come to real Christian courage, he didn't have it. He backed up and denied Him. Is that right? He could cut the high priest's ear off with his sword, sure, he knowed how to handle it. But when it come to the squeeze and time to stand on the Word of God, he didn't have the courage, and even denied he knowed Jesus.
That's where it is today. We got courage to build buildings and put millions of dollars in them. We got courage to put pipe organs, and plush seats, and everything, and go out and proselyte from place to place, and make the Methodists come Baptists, and so forth, back and forth like that. But when it comes to Christian courage to accept the Word and the message of God, and stand there on it, we are few. So what good's your stones without a stone mason again? That right?



for a real believer we seperate from that and stick to the pure Word of God. you don't hear that much nowadays - a people that keep God's Word NO MATTER WHAT! I could go on and on how Grace has allowed us this great insight into the Mind of God. and on the flip side - how responsible we are to It.



LOOK.AWAY.TO.JESUS_ JEFF.IN V-2 N-17 SUNDAY_ 63-1229E
But it will not be used in a great way, until this council begins to tighten up. And when it does, when that does... The Pentecostals and so forth can almost impersonate anything could be done, but when that time comes, when the squeeze comes down, then you'll see what you have seen temporarily, be manifested in the fullness of its power. See...?... see?

oooh... Bring it on!

If we are properly dead in Christ, then I shall not fear what men shall do to me!

[NeedGod]

amen!
i just want to tell mr. devil man to get lost and quit trying coz we won the war before the foundation of the world, its just being manifested but its already won.
:yay:
oh that is so beautiful!
:yay:
am so glad!

[Angelo]

oh I forgot - the squeeze is ment to bring us together. unseparable. share eachothers chewing gum ( not just coffee JoeC ;-) ) for brothers to chat with brothers (and not just sisters) :laugh:


I wish you'll have a lot of spam in store to share with me at the time but the problem is you're too far. But do you think there will be a physical gathering of the brethren that'll happen because of the pressure. I hope I get deported to the States or Canada would be fine.

....or will it be a spiritual unity?

[BroTrevor]

Personally, I don't believe it will be a geographical location.

I think we will be united in Christ, with the mind of Christ.

[SpamBoy]

I agree with brotrevor.
united in Christ with the Mind of Christ.

[Angelo]

PHILADELPHIAN.CHURCH.AGE - CHURCH.AGE.BOOK CPT.8
As this pressure increases, and it will, it will be harder to resist, for to resist is to lose privilege. And so many will be tempted to go along, for they will feel it is better to serve God publicly in the framework of this organization than not to serve God at all publicly. But they err. To believe the devil's lie is to serve Satan, even though you may want to call him Jehovah. But the elect will not be deceived.

Now this is for the foolish virgins that will be tempted to go along this organization for a period of time until.... Typing Peter, when he wasn't converted yet, denied the Lord trice. I think when the squeeze comes down, and God's power be manifested in its fullness among the Bride, and after the rapture takes place, there won't be any persecutions coming in until the end of the tribulation. I think the persecution will be sparked by the two prophets. The foolish witnessing God's power by their resurrection and afterwards the persecution of the 144,000, will spark their faith.
As a private student of the Word, this was my idea. Do you guys think its possible?

[azurity]

This is certainly an interesting topic!

I've been thinking on it a little lately, because there are so many signs around us that show that the coming is at hand! (Hallelujah!!!)

There will be a squeeze. For sure.

I can't find it right now, but there is a quote where Brother Branham says that the Bride won't see the persecution, but will see the start of it. This will be the squeeze.

I can see it starting now, economically. I look at the natural disasters, and how that is effecting our economy. They have a war, or a hurricane in America... our fuel price goes from 70c a litre, to $1.40. We had a cyclone in Northern Australia. Banana prices went from 99c a kg, to almost $5. And sugar will do the same.

These are minor things, but they just make the cost of living so much harder. I notice it myself... and I still live at home.

The other day, we watched a DVD by Alex Jones (http://www.prisonplanet.com/) on 9/11 Martial law, and it was so depressing! I don't know how right this guy is, but I can see how easily they would bring in a one world order.

I haven't heard so much about churches and religious persecution. I know the churches are going to come together, and those that take the stand with the Word will be persecuted, but I don't know how they will bring this in. But it doesn't matter how. They're going to do it. I wonder if I'm going to Alaska as well...

THE.INFLUENCE.OF.ANOTHER_ JEFF.IN V-4 N-11 SATURDAY_ 62-1013
81 I understand that everybody that won't agree and come into the--to the--the international agreement of this fellowship that they're trying to form to put--and unite all churches together, the federation of churches, that all that won't come in and unite with it, they're making them a little province; they're going to send them to Alaska. You might as well get ready for cold weather, 'cause it looks like it's coming. So what a disgrace.


(See? So it could be a physical location after all.)

[HotShot53]

Never seen that quote before.... well, you better start getting ready Alysa, it's going to be extra cold for you hot-climate people ;)

[SpamBoy]

There will be a group that is not in the Bride - they go to your message church and I believe they will be part of the group you mention azurity.

Remember there are three kinds of believers in EVERY church. we have faith that everyone in our local church is Bride but the reality is not the same.

-SpamBoy
"chance of Alaska = 0%"

[Angelo]

So economical instability poses as one of the main reason for everyone to join in to this Ecumenical move. hhmm.

I haven't heard so much about churches and religious persecution. I know the churches are going to come together, and those that take the stand with the Word will be persecuted, but I don't know how they will bring this in. But it doesn't matter how. They're going to do it. I wonder if I'm going to Alaska as well...

THE.INFLUENCE.OF.ANOTHER_ JEFF.IN V-4 N-11 SATURDAY_ 62-1013
81 I understand that everybody that won't agree and come into the--to the--the international agreement of this fellowship that they're trying to form to put--and unite all churches together, the federation of churches, that all that won't come in and unite with it, they're making them a little province; they're going to send them to Alaska. You might as well get ready for cold weather, 'cause it looks like it's coming. So what a disgrace.


(See? So it could be a physical location after all.)

I don't think I can last a day in Alaska because of the cold. But on second thought, I could still enjoy the ride. To have the body change in Alaska won't be a bad picture.

[NeedGod]

oh my, alaska will be hard for us kenyans, bbut then again whther its in the mind of Christ or in a physical location, as long as i have the Lord in me, i will make it in the squeeze! we all will.

[Angelo]

I found these chapters on books written by Clement, a believer at the early church.

[A.D. 30-100.] CLEMENT was probably a Gentile and a Roman. He seems to have been at Philippi with St. Paul (A.D. 57) when that first-born of the Western churches was passing through great trials of faith. There, with holy women and others, he ministered to the apostle and to the saints.

CHAP. V.--NO LESS EVILS HAVE ARISEN FROM THE SAME SOURCE IN THE MOST RECENT TIMES. THE MARTYRDOM OF PETER AND PAUL.
But not to dwell upon ancient examples, let us come to the most recent spiritual heroes.(11) Let us take the noble examples furnished in our own generation. Through envy and jealousy, the greatest and most righteous pillars[of the Church](3) have been persecuted and put to death.(12) Let us set before our eyes the illustrious(13) apostles. Peter, through unrighteous envy, endured not one or two, but numerous labours and when he had at length suffered martyrdom, departed to the place of glory due to him. Owing to envy, Paul also obtained the reward of patient endurance, after being seven times thrown into captivity,(14) compelled(15) to flee, and stoned. After preaching both in the east and west, he gained the illustrious reputation due to his faith, having taught righteousness to the whole world, and come to the extreme limit of the west,(16) and suffered martyrdom under the prefects.(17) Thus was he removed from the world, and went into the holy place, having proved himself a striking example of patience.
CHAP. VI.--CONTINUATION. SEVERAL OTHER MARTYRS.
To these men who spent their lives in the practice of holiness, there is to be added a great multitude of the elect, who, having through envy endured many indignities and tortures, furnished. us with a most excellent example. Through envy, those women, the Danaids(18) and Dircae, being persecuted, after they had suffered terrible and unspeakable torments, finished the course of their faith with stedfastness,(19) and though weak in body, received a noble reward. Envy has alienated wives from their husbands, and changed that saying of our father Adam, "This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh." Envy and strife have overthrown great cities and rooted up mighty nations.

CHAP. IX.--EXAMPLES OF THE SAINTS.
Wherefore, let us yield obedience to His excellent and glorious will; and imploring His mercy and loving-kindness, while we forsake all fruitless labours,(9) and strife, and envy, which leads to death, let us turn and have recourse to His compassions. Let us stedfastly contemplate those who have perfectly ministered to His excellent glory. Let us take (for instance) Enoch, who, being found righteous in obedience, was translated, and death was never known to happen to him? Noah, being found faithful, preached regeneration to the world through his ministry; and the Lord saved by him the animals which, with one accord, entered into the ark.

[Angelo]

Does not Bro Branham say that the Bride must go through persecution. It has already happened in some parts of the world, I wonder when it will happen here in North America. I mean people already see us as a "cult".
Bro Trumpetplayer, I have no news on persecution among the brethren at this time, will you mention some of them that you know please or anyone?

[NeedGod]

Angelo, it has happened in various countries. i also read about it in an Only believe Magazine some time.
In high school, we were seen as a cult snd people used to laugh at us and mock us. strangely enough, i was happiest the two years of HIgh school that i believed. in my country, most people call us devil worshipers. there have been times when people came to church to check if we hide things like bones and things under the altar. or pastor told us a story of someone who came to check and ended up believing the Word. how awesome is that?

[Angelo]

That was nice, they had bad intentions and end up meeting the Truth.

[NeedGod]

yeah, it was great. i feel like the squeeze should be getting tightened now. see all these prophesies being fulfilled and i wonder. the time is nigh. we should go down on our knees and pray and read the Word daily!