Manly-man

[JoeC]

OK, what's your image of a manly man? Bags in his knees, or 3-day beard, flannel shirt and blue jeans with leathery skin? Other images & details?

[BroTrevor]

Well, while bags in his knees is a wonderful thing. Let me relate something about my dad.

Dad is a large animal veterinarian. I used to have the blessed misfortune of helping him every wednesday process the cattle at the Sturgis stock exchange.

We used to paint letters with branding irons on the cows back. Numbers usually to indicate the age of the cow. One cow got out before we got the number on...so dad went chasing after it with the paint branding iron. He finally got the number on the cows back, but got kicked in the face in the process.

He comes back to the shack and points to what he only knows to be moisture under his eye. He asks matter-of-factly, "is this blood on my face or paint?" without a wince of pain at all. Then there was the time he was helping the pastor move a wood stove up some stairs with some other brothers. It ended up getting dropped a bit and put a gash in Dad's knee. So he just goes back to his truck, grabs the catgut...sews himself up, and goes back to finish bringing in the wood stove.

I personally think my Dad was a manly man.

My 2 cents anyhow...

[JoeC]

Yeah, there's something in a man that longs for more than just a peaceful, domesticated existence. I'm reading a book right now that's having a tremendous impact on my perception of men and how we're meant to be. It's called Wild at Heart (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594150168/sr=8-11/qid=1140406470/ref=pd_bbs_11/002-7917955-7314424?%5Fencoding=UTF8).


And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of
heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.



Matthew 11:12

[SpamBoy]

I need to think about this...

If a sneeze determined manliness I would rate...but so would a lot of sisters. :D
:aaaah:

-SpamBoy
"no sigs needed in the Fort"

[JoeC]

and if a scar determined manliness.... a lot of our sisters would qualify :D

[BroTrevor]

bwaaa hahahahahaha

now that's some funny stuff.

[HotShot53]

A manly man doesn't have to look like the prototypical "manly man" to be one... he just know's he's one and is one ;)

[JoeC]

I agree. But what defines a man? It's not success... the guy in the three-piece with the fancy cell phone is many times just a sad diversaion for the essence of a man.

What really lies in the heart of man and what does he express that makes others look to him as a man's man?

[BroTrevor]

Inner strength that is shown on the outside.

The guy in the three piece..(well for starters he's too hot to be comfy...I digress) could be mean and angry and "powerful" but that isn't strength...that only shows his fear.

Inner strength isn't shown in big outward shows like that. It's shown in resliliance and determination. Among other things.

I think that's alot of it anyhow. This could in part be why men with baggy knees from praying are considered very manly. They have a source of inner strength from Jesus.

[NoahL]

A manly man is the man who reflects Jesus Christ in everything he does.

[JoeC]

This is interesting. Isn't the typical picture of Christ almost the exact opposite of what the world determines a man to be? Rough, burly, dangerous, adventerous...

But we see Christ as meek, gentle, turning the other cheek and surrounded by children.

[BroTrevor]

This is interesting. Isn't the typical picture of Christ almost the exact opposite of what the world determines a man to be? Rough, burly, dangerous, adventerous...

But we see Christ as meek, gentle, turning the other cheek and surrounded by children.


Hence, "inner strength". Just because Jesus was meek, gentle, turned the other cheeck and was surrounded by children, does not mean he was weak! (although some might say so to see someone with such qualities).

Show me the most burly rough dangerous guy you can find, and I bet he can't handle 40 lashes, throw a cross on his back drag it down a long road barefoot, then get nailed to it, and hang there and forgive those that spit on him.

Inner strength. Faith. Resilience. Determination. Solid.

[SpamBoy]

But we see Christ as meek, gentle, turning the other cheek and surrounded by children.

this is very one-sided. we were given a burley nature *and* we have a Burley preacher. :D - the LORD did not give us something he did not posses Himself.

were not men in tights, were MEN!
burley gentle meek strong humorous 'defend family' yada yada... :yes:

-SpamBoy
"I'm short .02 cents...sorry."

[trumpetplayer]

Well a Christian is expected to be rugged I feel that physical apperance and strength have little or nothing to do with making a man. A true man should be rippling with spiritual muscles not the natural muscles that fade away. (Not that theres anything wrong with phyiscal fitness. However the Prophet makes it very plain that a real man is a man with character.One who spends his time in prayer, the bible and the message. I man with bags in his knees is way more a man, then any burly bodybuilder

[JoeC]

I agree. I'll be posting more a I read the book Wild at Heart by John Eldredge. It's really making me take a second look a manhood - and I'm feeling a call to come up higher.


Disclaimer: Though a good book, I must warn that Wild at Heart is for older audiences as it does deal with sexuality in some parts. Also, if you choose to read it, be aware that although the author has some really thought-provoking insights, he is not always right and is just plain wrong on a lot of stuff. But so far it's still proving to be a worthwhile read (and certainly a better way to read about manhood than via Louis L'Amour).

[BroTrevor]

you mean Louis La'mours typical manly-man isn't the best role model?

<chuckle>

It's been 4 days since anyone posted in the fort. Somebody had to say something...

[JoeC]

lol... no, but it certaintly is the type that men wish they could be.

[JMG]

Are sure about that? What is the author's opinion on being a man?

[trumpetplayer]

From what I gather from Louis Lamour (which ive only read like 2 books) a manly man must be tough and debonaire. There is nothing of spiritual qualities ever mentioned.

[BroTrevor]

Yeah, but they can smell an injun a mile away. Is that worth something?

[JoeC]

lol, maybe a century and a 1/2 ago. Anyhow, he does capture the world's view of a man. Strong in his element, strong jaw line, broad shoulders, tapered waist.

[cdnjava]

From what I gather from Louis Lamour (which ive only read like 2 books) a manly man must be tough and debonaire. There is nothing of spiritual qualities ever mentioned.

I saw a bumper sticker not too long ago that said:

REAL MEN PRAY!

[BroTrevor]

broad shoulders, tapered waist.

Which just means that these days they have a problem finding suits to fit right.

[JoeC]

Yes, fortunately I do not have that problem as I have a problem meeting the prerequisite for a suit - - - MONEY!

[jtucker]

my vision of a manly man is the vision of my grandfather, he was a farmer he was thankful to God for everything he had and portrayed Jesus in everything he did, he was a rough guy, not saying he had a mouth of a sailor because he didn't he would work all day and come in from the fields and be thankful for the day and the work he had given my grandpa, he was a mover and a shaker in church, but only in a respectable to God sort of way he would shout and sing and run around the building in the spirit, man o man, when he was on his death bed, he was talking to someone, and we asked him what he was doing he told us he was explaining to the angels about one time when he was doing some carpentry work. and then shortly after he passed on to be with the Lord.

[HotShot53]

That must be awesome to know where your Grandfather went... if only we all can have such a testimony that everyone will know where we are when the time comes....

[jtucker]

it's a blessing that i consider an honor, God is great in all He does

[Angelo]

For me, a manly-man can only be the ones that has the Spirit of God in them, that will bring them to an overcoming life, and destined for kingship in the millenium.

[Sara]

If I Marry
Poem by Ruth Graham

"If I marry: He must be so tall that when he is on his knees, as one has said, he reaches all the way to Heaven. His shoulders must be broad enough to bear the burden of a family. His lips must be strong enough to smile, firm enough to say no, and tender enough to kiss. Love must be so deep that it takes its stand in Christ and so wide that it takes the whole lost world in. He must be active enough to save souls. He must be big enough to be gentle and great enough to be thoughtful. His arms must be strong enough to carry a little child."

THAT is a man.

[HotShot53]

I don't think Sara has posted since the fort came into existance... I gave her a warning, but I don't think she deserves red's for this post... next time watch out though ;)

[joris]

don't think I'm a manly man; could someone give the summary of what is one, and how to become one? ;) or should I really read it? :)

[JoeC]

My concept of a man has come from sermons I've heard. Brother Danny Stemen's "Give Me A Man", my pastor's series on true manhood. Wow. I know I'm just tantalizing you by mentioning goods I can't give you.

To develop the understand of what constitutes a real man and to, eventually, become that man, listen to spirit-filled services. Just pop a message of Brother Branham's in your tape player or CD player whenever you have time.

BTW,
If you don't have the library of Brother Branham's messages, they are available on MP3 for somewhere around 10 USD. Let me know if you're interested.

[joris]

Heh, no I don't have it, though I think spoken english (especially on bible texts) might be a bit hard to follow; I like reading texts though if you can link to written-out texts too :)

[BroTrevor]

Heh, no I don't have it, though I think spoken english (especially on bible texts) might be a bit hard to follow; I like reading texts though if you can link to written-out texts too :)

What language do you speak??

How close are you to...


Voice of God Recordings, Netherlands Office
Gerald & Heino Buitenkamp
Address Information:
P.O. Box 78
9520 AB Nieuw-Buinen
Netherlands
Phone: 31-599-651570
Fax: 31-599-650481
Email: vgr-europe@dds.nl (vgr-europe@dds.nl)

If you write or call them, and ask for material...I believe you will be blessed... Gerald is a phenomenal brother. I believe they have plenty of french and spanish material there too if English isn't your first language.

Plenty of texts you could get from them which, if it isn't free, it's the next thing to it.

If you want to get closer to God, I'd start there!

[HotShot53]

http://66.6.218.55/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=2331889174&infobase=message2005.nfo&softpage=Browse_Frame_Pg42

That's a link to a text copy of all the messages that Bro. Branham preached that were recorded. In addition to reading through the sermons, you can also do searches. Enjoy :)

[jtucker]

i can't provide you with links but i will be in prayer for you Brother