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marichino_freedom
02-06-2006, 02:31 AM
Which bible version does everyone use? i have a NKJ, but i have been feeling convicted by it (i've been told that it is wrong)

NeedGod
02-06-2006, 02:35 AM
i use a king james. but if you are reading the word, check the version the prophet used to use. i am not sure which but just check. it should tell us alot.

chocolateismybestfriend
02-06-2006, 06:03 AM
But for me, the rest of you brethren can teach from any version you want to, but I like the King James. Just seems more like the Bible to me. - Bro Branham

JoeC
02-06-2006, 08:38 AM
I mainly use the KJV. The amplified helps out a lot where my understanding is lost to the KJV's archaic use and structure of the language.

I used to use the NKJV and I think it's probably the best alternative out there (I don't consider the amplified an alternative, I consider it a study help). I'll look up some comparisons later.

AgapZoe
02-06-2006, 12:12 PM
In my university there is this course called Bible Survey....
so, during one of the lectures,my lecturer mentioned to us that there are so many versions..it has reached an extent where we even have the womens bible...(you are thinking what it's all about?)
in the womens bible, everything that is directed to God is mentioned using the feminine articles(is that right?)
e.g..God created man and woman in Her own image..but i have no proof for that....

i too prefer the KJV..but i use it alongside with NIV.

BroTrevor
02-06-2006, 01:09 PM
I have three.

I use the King James normally, because that is what Bro Branham used and liked and it's what I grew up with. I also use the Lamsa, because Bro Branham mentioned that as well. It's neat, but I'm so used to the King James now, that it reads funny to me. I also have a Diaglott for study as I know Bro Branham used this as well.

I read an article once on the NIV. I don't like it much. The article spoke of how the NIV takes out references to Jesus being Lord. Here's one such article about omissions. Can't seem to find the article I was looking for.

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/nivquiz.htm

Thought it was rather interesting. Here's another

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/deity.htm

I don't take these to be authorities, but if they have written the passages this articles talks of correctly, then I'd steer clear of NIV.

JoeC
02-06-2006, 02:52 PM
I don't care much for the NIV either - from what I understand, the NIV had a lesbian on the committee that worked out the translation. :mad:

I'll let you draw your own conclusions as to what that may mean for the translation itself.

marichino_freedom
02-07-2006, 01:07 AM
i just dont want to be reading something inaccurate

Babyruth
02-07-2006, 02:51 AM
I like the KJV and the Schofield (sorry for spelling). I like to use my KJV with my dad's Greek Diaglott and his marginal references in his Bible. I wish they could put it all in one, to make it easier. However, since my Bible is already huge, I don't think it would be wise.

NeedGod
02-07-2006, 03:02 AM
in king james version, they refer to jacob as israel all the time, soon after he was renamed. but in other versions i have seen they call him jacob still. i am wary of any discrepancies. i would advice anyone to just stick to kjv

AgapZoe
02-07-2006, 02:46 PM
in king james version, they refer to jacob as israel all the time, soon after he was renamed. but in other versions i have seen they call him jacob still. i am wary of any discrepancies. i would advice anyone to just stick to kjv


whatever you say my sweet lovely older cuz!!!i shall abide by it!!!:)

well, i respect your views about the kjv..and well, what if i don't have it..and i have another one? should i do away with the one i have and..blah,blah,
since we have the truth...the spoken word..i think we can trust on God to reveal to us the truth, irrespective of the version..okay, ofcourse some are just out of the topic but ithink we can use some ..not just the kjv!!

JoeC
02-07-2006, 05:13 PM
I would be very cautious about any alternative translations.

blessed
02-07-2006, 08:11 PM
Alternative translations can change the original meaning....the original bible was written by men inspired by God..as far as i am aware he never comissioned anyone to rewrite it any better than the way he put it the first time around

NeedGod
02-08-2006, 05:14 AM
i agree with you blessed. and i am also wary of the ones with explanations. they may be misleading. some even say that Peter was the rock. be wary of these. just read the bible and if you want an explanation of what God meant, read His Word given to us on this day through His prophet.

blessed
02-08-2006, 09:46 PM
amen to that namwacha

marichino_freedom
02-09-2006, 01:36 AM
mine is a study bible...my grandparents gave it to me for my birthday a few years ago...i'm questioning some of the explanations

redeemed
02-09-2006, 09:38 AM
I know Bro Branham used the KJV and that's what we use also. Our pastor says it's the best one. I think that's because it's the oldest one so it hasen't been able to be changed so many times. I can't remeber exactly when it came out but something is telling me in the late 1700's

JoeC
02-12-2006, 06:24 PM
I also use the Lamsa, because Bro Branham mentioned that as well.

I just read Brother Branham's account of his meeting with Dr. Lamsa and how the brother knew he was a prophet by the revelation he had of God's attributes. I really enjoyed that.

marichino_freedom
02-13-2006, 12:27 AM
i'm not familiar with that one....

NeedGod
02-13-2006, 06:11 AM
nor am i but if the prophet said so, well, it must be so then.

blessed
02-14-2006, 09:06 AM
I just read Brother Branham's account of his meeting with Dr. Lamsa and how the brother knew he was a prophet by the revelation he had of God's attributes. I really enjoyed that.

Can you please tell me where i can find that Joe

JoeC
02-14-2006, 09:44 AM
GO.TELL.title JEFF.IN EASTER.MESSAGE.BOOK 60-0417M

108 046 A few days ago, talking to the great Doctor Lamsa, who translated the Bible from the Aramaic unto English... And I seen that little sign, God's sign on there, with three little dots in it. I said, "Doctor Lamsa, what is that?"

He said, "It's God, with three attributes."
And I said, "You mean, God living in three offices, such as, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost?"

He raised and looked at me, tears come in that Jew's eyes; he said, "Do you believe that, Brother Branham?"
I said, "With all that's in my heart."

He throwed his arms around me and said, "I wondered when I seen that great things going forth, and the signs that you were doing." Said, "They told me you was a prophet. I didn't believe it till now. Now, I know you are." He said, "That's it. That's the message. That's the thing that'll shake the Kingdom of God." Yes. He said, "Someday you'll die for it, boy." Said, "You'll seal your testimony with that very same thing."

blessed
02-14-2006, 02:17 PM
Amen Amen Amen

gingersnap4jc
02-17-2006, 11:06 PM
Hey guys,
I have been reading your posts on here for a few days now and have wanted to post but been to busy with work. So now that I have a chance I would like to share some things that I have learned.
Ok, to start out I went to Non-Denominational Churches for 10 years before I was introduced to the Message. While I was there they used, read and taught from alot of dif. versions of bibles. I never understood why my Dad told my sisters and I that we could only get KJV or NKJV bibles. So for years even being in the Non-Denominational Churches I used a KJV that my Dad and Mom had gotten for me when I was 8 When I was 17 I started going to an extremely organized no denominational church, and all they would read from were newer translations, mostly the New Living Translation. They told me I had to get one and that it was easier to understand! So I bought myself one and no longer used the KJV or even NKJV. I would keep loosing it though and had to use my KJV for periods of time. I was reading the NLT and hearing teachings from it, but I couldn't understand why I really couldn't understand it. To me it seemed to contradict it's self, and I kept asking people why? Cause I knew that God's Word wasn't suppose to be contradictory. Well to make a long story short going to that church was a BIG mistake!!! Anyways when my mom and Dad started talking to my Aunt and Uncle about The Message, my sisters followed and learned with them. But I rebelled Big time, I even left home cause the church(teenagers and young adults that were put in leadership positions) told me to and they used scripture from the NLT Bible to back it up. Well after I finally decided to come back under the authority of my parrents I went to my first over the phone church service at my aunt and Uncle's house. After church my cousin Daniel was talking to us and shared with us some info. about the Bible Translations. Daniel had some papers about the KJV verses other translations. After he told me about it I realised how much things had been changed in other versions.
Here are some examples:
Let's Compare Bibles
In this section, we have reprinted our Let's Compare Bibles tract. Here you will see several good examples of how modern Bible versions are attacking God's word. We have selected eight modern translations for evaluation. The translations evaluated are as follows:
NIV....... New International Version
NASB... New American Standard Bible
NRSV... New Revised Standard Version
REB...... Revised English Bible
LB......... Living Bible
NWT..... New World Translation
NAB ..... New American Bible
NKJV.... New King James Version
Although we have limited this study to eight new translations, you will find many of these attacks manifested in ANY new translation. You will find that some of the most important doctrines of the Bible are being attacked in the new versions. Whether you have a Living Bible, a New Century Version, a Revised Standard Version, or any of the other perversions of Scripture, you are going to see the Devil hard at work on the revision committees of the new translations. The King James reading will appear first, followed by a brief comment, and then the perverted readings of the modern perversions.

Psalm 12:6-7
The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

The above promise from the King James Bible tells us that God intends to preserve His WORDS forever. Notice how the new versions destroy this promise by making you think the context is God's PEOPLE rather than His WORDS:
NIV....... you will keep us safe
NASB... Thou wilt preserve him
NRSV... You, O Lord, will protect us
REB...... you are our protector
LB......... you will forever preserve your own
NAB...... You, O Lord, will keep us

Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Notice how some new versions attack the Virgin Birth of Christ by robbing Mary of her virginity. As anyone well knows, a young woman or a maiden is NOT necessarily a virgin:
NRSV... young woman
REB...... young woman
NWT..... maiden

Luke 2:33
And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him.

Here the new versions attack the Virgin Birth by telling us that Joseph was Christ's father:
NIV....... The child's father
NASB... His father
NRSV... the child's father
REB...... The child's father
NWT..... its father
NAB...... the child's father

I Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Notice how the King James is very clear in telling us WHO was manifest in the flesh: GOD was manifest in the flesh. Now watch the new perversions throw God clear out of the verse:
NIV....... He appeared in a body
NASB... He who was revealed in the flesh
NRSV... He was revealed in flesh
REB...... He was manifested in the flesh
LB......... who came to earth as a man
NWT..... He was made manifest in the flesh
NAB...... He was manifested in the flesh

Micah 5:2
But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

This is a prophecy of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the verse tells us that He had no beginning. As the Second Member of the Trinity, He is ETERNAL, or from everlasting, but not in most modern translations:
NIV....... from ancient times
NRSV... from ancient days
REB..... in ancient times
NWT.... from the days of time indefinite
NAB..... from ancient times (vs. 1)

Isaiah 14:12

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Revelation 22:16 tells us that Jesus Christ is the "Morning Star". The King James Bible never gives this title to anyone else. However, in some new versions, Jesus Christ and Satan are the same, because some versions have taken the liberty to call Satan the "morning star" in Isaiah 14:12. Although some versions do not go so far as to call Satan the "morning star," they still throw out the name "Lucifer".
NIV....... morning star
NASB... star of the morning
NRSV... Day Star
REB...... Bright morning star
NWT..... you shining one
NAB...... morning star

THOSE ARE JUST A FEW if you want to learn more about the Bible Translations go to this link
http://www.biblebelievers.com/jmelton/fight.html

I thank Jesus Christ for the talk I had with my cousin, I now only use KJV because I don't trust the others! I hope that what I shared will give you some knowledge about KJV verses OTHER VIRSIONS!
May Jesus Christ Bless You All! Mary

blessed
02-18-2006, 06:14 PM
Isaiah 14:12

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Revelation 22:16 tells us that Jesus Christ is the "Morning Star". The King James Bible never gives this title to anyone else. However, in some new versions, Jesus Christ and Satan are the same, because some versions have taken the liberty to call Satan the "morning star" in Isaiah 14:12. Although some versions do not go so far as to call Satan the "morning star," they still throw out the name "Lucifer".
NIV....... morning star
NASB... star of the morning
NRSV... Day Star
REB...... Bright morning star
NWT..... you shining one
NAB...... morning star


I only read the KJV because always felt as though it was the only true version...but as i read here especially the above...i have never seen such crap...Satan is such a good for nothing snake...just as he got Eve to change one word he has taken God's sacred Word and changed it so that he can get the Glory....even now i will work even harder at being a better Christian just so that i can kick that old mamba down.

Thank you very much for providing us with that information. I will look into it further.ohhhh i am just so highly annoyed right now

marichino_freedom
02-20-2006, 07:22 PM
INSANE stuff!!! it makes me even more leary of things like this

:shuriken:

NeedGod
02-21-2006, 07:21 AM
this stuff is insane alright. i am also annoyed so annoyed. the devil is using every means to change and try to destroy the Word. but God's Word is steadfast, it will stand forever

marichino_freedom
02-22-2006, 01:05 AM
absolutely

trumpetplayer
02-24-2006, 02:09 AM
Im getting a new bible its a king james and amplified dual bible. Im so excited. The King James is definitely the absolute but the amplified is such a good resource. One of my ministers Bro.Tom Rae reads out of the amplified after he has read out of the King James. It can expound and make the meaning even more powerful. Also the amplified bible that im buying seems to have lots of cross refrences which I like. Anyone else used the amplified bible?

trumpetplayer
02-24-2006, 02:24 AM
I was looking at the "christian" books in the university library. And some guy just out of the blue told me that you cant quote from the King James Bible when doing reports, that you have to use NIV. I COULDNT BELIEVE IT. What a mockery. Glad im not taking any useless religious classes.

Looking at all those useless theology books I realized all I need is the KJV Bible and the prophets message. AHMEN!

BroTrevor
02-24-2006, 11:03 AM
Im getting a new bible its a king james and amplified dual bible. Im so excited. The King James is definitely the absolute but the amplified is such a good resource. One of my ministers Bro.Tom Rae reads out of the amplified after he has read out of the King James. It can expound and make the meaning even more powerful. Also the amplified bible that im buying seems to have lots of cross refrences which I like. Anyone else used the amplified bible?

I haven't used an amplified and KJV side by side in a LOOONG while...but I have used it before. I enjoy being able to look at different wordings and how they relate to KJV.

Oh what a wonderful thing a side by side KJV and Lamsa would be...:praise:

trumpetplayer
02-25-2006, 06:37 PM
A King James Lamsa bible would be awesome. However it doesnt seem like there is a dual bible with the lamsa bible. From what I read some evangelical Christians are against it. Probably because he didnt believe in the trinity. Well if Dr. Lamsa was considered a man of God by my prophet thats more then good enough for me.

JoeC
02-25-2006, 06:42 PM
I'm not sure if Brother Branham ever really endorsed the work of Dr. Lamsa... if you read up on Dr. Lamsa, it would appear that he is not in direct agreement with either the denominations or the Message.

trumpetplayer
02-25-2006, 06:47 PM
what I read Bro Branham really respected Dr. Lamsa, but maybe your right, will have to look into this more. Anyways probably wont be buying a Lamsa bible soon, cant wait for my kjv amp bible to come in . Should be coming in nexty week YAH:yay:

NeedGod
02-28-2006, 07:42 AM
i think we should all just stick to kjv. i am sick of the fact that theology students arent allowed to reference from it. what is this sick guy called the devil up to. oh, but he wont win, because our Redeemer lives

trumpetplayer
02-28-2006, 12:59 PM
namwacha your right the king james bible is the way to go. However I see nothing wrong with using another bible (such as the amplified) and checking it back to the King James. Thats why my new dual bible will be great. I mean seriouly folks the kjv is the absolute bible but it still is sometimes hard to understand. BUT I LOVE THE KING JAMES AND WOULD NEVER GET RID OF IT!
:)

JoeC
02-28-2006, 01:08 PM
So, you specially ordered a new Bible? Tell us about it!

I just ordered one for my birthday. I had a Thompson Chain KJV that wasn't just any ol' sword - it was a William Wallace sword (you know the type, 7 ft long...). Anyhow, at 7 1/2" by 10 1/2" it was a bit too bulky to lug around everywhere.

So, when I got a 50% off coupon from our local Christian book dealer, I went in and ordered a nice 5 1/2" by 8" calfskin KJV. It's not the real supple leather I wanted (see Nelson Signature Series Bibles for that... wow! Unfortunately, they're out of print right now, though coming back in Oct.), but it's still a sturdy bible and should hold up for my one year bible study over and over again.... and it'll get more supple with use.

BroTrevor
02-28-2006, 02:21 PM
HA!

I have a Bible cover around my Bible. It houses my Bible...a few message books, my rather nice notebook for notes, I don't know how many printouts of quotes and sermon notes I have in there, song book, notes for Sunday school classes.

It probably weighs 10 pounds.

I want this Bible to last forever. I know where everything is!! My underlines would all have to be redone if i got a new Bible...oh man. I'd be devastated if I ever lost this Bible. Really.

Mine's a KJV Thompson chain.

JoeC
02-28-2006, 04:15 PM
Reminds me of my school binder... it's rather nice (leather), packed with my calculator, a full semester's worth of documents (four subjects, 14 creds), blank note paper, misc supplies, etc... it weighs more than my 1300 pg. C++ textbook! Needless to say, it's the heaviest item in my backpack.

Babyruth
03-01-2006, 04:52 AM
I have the giant print Bible because I have a hard time reading small print, especially Bible small print. Then, it's in a cover with tons of messages and handouts and other things. It probably weighs about 5 pounds sometimes. Maybe not quite that much, but enough. My school notebook is extrememly heavy too! It's is so full that I can't opent the rings or everything spills out. It is almost as heavy as my almost 10 pounds Biology book.

trumpetplayer
03-01-2006, 09:09 PM
My new bible is an dual kjv amplified bible by zondervan, With some study notes. To see a sample go to http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0310925614/qid=1141261716/sr=8-5/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i5_xgl14/701-3974090-4918759. Unfortunately its hard cover and not leather but I dont mind. Should be coming sometime this week I hope. :thumbup:

trumpetplayer
03-04-2006, 12:20 AM
My new Bible came in, Yes:yay: :yay: :yay:. Thank you God. Its so nice having those two translations together. And it has lots of scripture crossrefrences its so nice. More of a Concordance would be nice but you cant have everything.

God be Praised!

gingersnap4jc
08-23-2006, 12:48 AM
I just wanted to tell ya'll about a neat Bible. It is a KJV Hebrew-Greek Key Word Study Bible. I got it about a week ago. It has been really nice being able to study with it, when there is a word that I don't quite understand I can look at what it means in the Hebrew or Greek. I like it alot and recomend it.
May our Lord Jesus Christ Bless You All, Mary

AgapZoe
08-23-2006, 09:11 AM
Hey mary and how nice to hear from you again.........you never update your xanga anymore.let me go check,maybe you have! :)
Good for you to get that Bible! Read it and use what you read,ok?
;)

God'schild
08-23-2006, 04:29 PM
Did you all know that there is a KJV study Bible out there??

One of the girls in my church has one and she has it's really really helpful.

AlanaH
08-26-2006, 06:27 PM
I have a Giant print KJV (helps out a lot when the person next to you forgot theirs cause you can read it almost the whole pew away:) ).
I also carry a mini Amplified with me because like Nathanael said, Bro. Tom quotes a lot out of it when he's preaching and it's nice to follow along.
Our study Bible at home though is a Thompson Chain and it's nice!

Babyruth
08-26-2006, 08:45 PM
I have the same Bible as Alana. Funny! We discovered that a while ago. I like it cause it's easy to read and write in. I want to get an amplified Bible though. My dad has one, and it's really nice.

AlanaH
08-26-2006, 09:38 PM
I have the same Bible as Alana. Funny! We discovered that a while ago. I like it cause it's easy to read and write in. I want to get an amplified Bible though. My dad has one, and it's really nice.

Yeah, I think we both got them from Sam's Club like in '01 or something like that...we went shopping together.

Babyruth
08-27-2006, 02:28 AM
:) Something like that. :)

joris
08-27-2006, 10:37 AM
Which bible version does everyone use? i have a NKJ, but i have been feeling convicted by it (i've been told that it is wrong) uhm you won't know these... ;)

I have got the NBG51, "dutch/belgian translation from 1951" - which I think is a good bible version and it's used in my church, and GNB, "great news bible", I think from around 1995 , and "Het Boek", another bible meant to be easy to read from around 1990 or so, and ... I have some english one too someone gave me (looking it up for the name, not using it that regularly) -- "new living translation"

Oh I also use this (http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?m=&id37=1&pos=0&set=10&lang=nl) site to look up texts when I'm behind the computer, though I also use some program to look up texts sometimes...

Babyruth
08-28-2006, 03:53 AM
You are right, I've never heard of them. But, that's fine. :)

joris
08-28-2006, 09:32 AM
You are right, I've never heard of them. But, that's fine. :)
that's because these are dutch :)

BroTrevor
08-28-2006, 11:41 AM
Did you all know that there is a KJV study Bible out there??

One of the girls in my church has one and she has it's really really helpful.

Thompson chain? Scofield?

Babyruth
08-28-2006, 04:12 PM
that's because these are dutch :)
:)...........

jtucker
08-28-2006, 06:18 PM
i used to own a niv, but found they took out parts of the lords prayer and such so i decided to not even fool with it, i didn't know about the omissions of Jesus is lord thing, that's even worse, but i can't even read nkj i feel as if it's inn some way deviated form the original meaning in some way. so i just stick strictly to kjv. this is a personal conviction and hope that when selecting your own bibles that you seek the leading of the Lord, because even though it may say Bible it doesn't mean it's not been corrupted by the minds of men or women

joris
08-29-2006, 07:24 AM
so i just stick strictly to kjv.
hmm I heard similar opinion about dutch bibles, the oldest (and hardest to read :sad: ) being of best quality; it seems at some point in 19th or 20th century some texts started to be stripped (background of this - unknown to me)
I try and read that -very-old-language-bible in dutch, though I only have it on internet, not in a real copy (I mean, an actual book form)

AlanaH
08-29-2006, 09:05 PM
i used to own a niv, but found they took out parts of the lords prayer and such so i decided to not even fool with it, i didn't know about the omissions of Jesus is lord thing, that's even worse, but i can't even read nkj i feel as if it's inn some way deviated form the original meaning in some way. so i just stick strictly to kjv. this is a personal conviction and hope that when selecting your own bibles that you seek the leading of the Lord, because even though it may say Bible it doesn't mean it's not been corrupted by the minds of men or women

I agree, the quality of some of the Bibles out there arre just men's interpretation and it's so watered down...disgusting!

Babyruth
08-29-2006, 10:39 PM
Yeah, I agree. I like King James. But, for my next Bible, I would like a Scofield.

Christian-Samurai
08-30-2006, 02:52 AM
I have 2 bibles myself, my main one is my KJV but my other one is 2 in one because it is in chinese with the english with it :D

AlanaH
08-30-2006, 03:00 AM
Schofields are awesome too....

Lyddie
12-19-2006, 03:37 PM
Which bible version does everyone use? i have a NKJ, but i have been feeling convicted by it (i've been told that it is wrong)

Brother Branham used the KJV. So do I. Brother Branham said it's the best translation there is.:)

eagleendtime
12-19-2006, 10:41 PM
Bibles! Oh my. One in each room of my house. The one I read is the KJV. For study and comparision only, I have a few others, including the Lamsa.

Now in terms of study bibles - The Thompson Chain. Quickest way of finding references on a lot of subjects.

I also have a pocket bible KJV (both testaments) that fit in my breast pocket. That goes with me nearly every wheres, now on my third one.

BroTrevor
12-19-2006, 11:41 PM
Bibles! Oh my. One in each room of my house. The one I read is the KJV. For study and comparision only, I have a few others, including the Lamsa.



Good man!! I found the differences in I Chor 7 very intruiging.

joris
12-20-2006, 07:09 PM
Brother Branham used the KJV. So do I. Brother Branham said it's the best translation there is.:)
Unfortunately KJV is hard to read, especially if English is not your first language. What good is the "best" translation if you can't really get what it's saying?

in Dutch there is something similar, it's SV = "Staten vertaling"; it's kinda very old; very good (according to some) but because of the old language it's actually possible to miss the real meaning of a text because the words are so... uncommon

I prefer another translation in Dutch, named NBG51 (also already dated, fifty years old, having the same language problems, though not as extreme); it is also the translation used in the church I attend to

What languages would you prefer next to KJV, in case it's unreadable? like in my case with Dutch I'd look at NBG51 if SV is unreadable, or others if even that doesn't help out

Nate
12-21-2006, 12:42 AM
What languages would you prefer next to KJV, in case it's unreadable? like in my case with Dutch I'd look at NBG51 if SV is unreadable, or others if even that doesn't help out

The biggest problem with most English translations, is that almost all of them are innacurate. The history of the English Translated Bible is very... how should I say it? Sordid?

Read this article on the King James Version (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Bible) to maybe get a little understanding on some of the problems we as English Speakers have to put up with because of the different translations out there.

As far as accuracy is concerned, the KJV is probably THE most accurate we have. It was translated directly from ancient Hebrew texts and ancient greek texts that all had many similar copies, and were all in firm agreement.
Most of the other translations of that time came from the Latin Vulgate. Obviously, when somethin goes from Hebrew/greek/aramaic, to Latin, to English, something is bound to be lost in the process.
If you take the words directly from their oldest known source, and make a direct translation, and dedicate yourself the way Tyndale did, you should be able to make a solid translation.

Most newer translations are derived from newer sources. From doccuments found in Egypt and other such sources. Because many of these sources are either newer, or have fewer texts of similarity, the translations made from them tend to be less accurate than the KJV.

I'm not saying the English Bible is the best out there. I just believe that the KJV is the best English translation out there.

AlanaH
12-21-2006, 03:31 AM
Reading the original Hebrew is the best...um...can anyone read Hebrew? :)

joris
12-21-2006, 05:20 AM
Reading the original Hebrew is the best...um...can anyone read Hebrew? :)not if the original was Greek (new testament scriptures) ;)

azurity
12-22-2006, 12:13 AM
Well, I guess we all better learn Greek & Hebrew, so we can understand the Bible... right?

EllyMae
12-22-2006, 12:53 AM
Well, I guess we all better learn Greek & Hebrew, so we can understand the Bible... right?

Hmm, no I believe that's why God sent us a prophet. So, he could interpret it for us. :)

marichino_freedom
12-22-2006, 11:19 PM
good point....

AgapZoe
12-23-2006, 09:36 AM
Hmm, no I believe that's why God sent us a prophet. So, he could interpret it for us. :)

Sure thing Elly. But for fun purposes,and if you wanna learn Greek and Hebrew,I mean..why not?

-I don't see no problem with learning two new hard languages*** while your own mothertongue grammer is a problem. ;)

:peep: *Hide me now........*

:juggle:

Lyddie
02-20-2007, 06:44 PM
Which bible version does everyone use? i have a NKJ, but i have been feeling convicted by it (i've been told that it is wrong)

Here is what our prophet said:

We had it in the message last night, that He had to catch the stinger in death in His own flesh and pull the sting out of death. Oh, brother, sister, what a marvelous revelation, what a marvelous truth it is to know that God has took the sting out of death. And I've stood in the face of dying saints, watch them raise their hands, and tears rolling down their cheek, and shout the victory right in the face of death; it's a beautiful sight. And we find now in the Old Testament... There's many words in our new King James Version that seems very strange. But for me, the rest of you brethren can teach from any version you want to, but I like the King James. Just seems more like the Bible to me. And in there there's some translations that might seem just a little bit strange to us. For instance, in John 14 it said, "In My Father's house is many mansions." My Father's little house has got many great big mansions in it. Now, that seems strange, but the translators that was translating the Bible for King James, used the language that they used in that day. And in England they had the same setup that they had in the Old Testament. Now, in England they had what they called the father's house, was his domain, the king's domain. Now, the Moffatt (I believe) translation is more ridiculous than the King James. It says, "In My Father's apartment house is many apartments," like you were going up there to rent an apartment. But if both of them is... Here's the original translation, "In My Father's kingdom is many palaces." That's the way it is in the original Hebrew. Now, but in King James' time they had it translated so the people would understand it.


So, I use the KJV and I always will. Everyone can use whatever version they would like, but I will stick with KJV.:)

Dreamer
02-21-2007, 11:43 AM
Yeah; I too have always used the King James version.:)

EptonicTermplor
02-22-2007, 11:00 PM
I'm all for the King James Bible.

Other versions leave things out and change meanings when theu supposedly just "update."

But this is a requirement. They cannot copyright it if they don't change it to a certain extent. Therefore ye's are just changed to you's in the New King James. Meanings get changed.

vpiper
02-23-2007, 10:25 AM
I'm all for the King James Bible.

Other versions leave things out and change meanings when theu supposedly just "update."

But this is a requirement. They cannot copyright it if they don't change it to a certain extent. Therefore ye's are just changed to you's in the New King James. Meanings get changed.

it's more then ye's being changed to you's in the NKJV some of the verses sound really different. but God protects his word.