New Reputation System In Effect!!!

[JoeC]

Due to some of the members of these forums expressing their desire to have something that denotes the quality of the poster and not merely the quantity of their posts, we have enabled the user reputation system.

This allows users to "grade" other users' on a post-by-post basis. After someone gets enough points, they'll move up to the next level. To view another user's reputation, simply hover over the gem at the right hand side of their post (right under their location) and the reputation will appear.

To rate someone's individual post, click on the balance scales at the upper right of the post in question (right by the alert button). Then vote! Make sure you say why you liked their post! This way you can encourage people by letting them know what they did right on that post.

Voting power is determined by voter reputation and voter post count. Newbies start out with 1 point for every vote. With every 500 posts or +100 (not -100) reputation points the user has they are given 1 extra point to vote with.

After voting on a user's post, you must vote on 10 other users before returning to the same user. This is a system enforced rule. All voting is anonymous.


Have Fun!




Criteria Ideas for Voting:

How much you enjoyed the post.
How well thought out the post seems to be.
Readability of the post (grammar, spelling, & formatting).
Relevance to the thread topic.
Relevance to the posts that precede it.

[HotShot53]

Sounds like a good system... hopefully it gets used :)

One recomendation is to lower the number of other people you have to rate before rating the same person again... there are only 9 people with over 250 posts (including myself), and with Samurai gone for a couple weeks that leaves 8... and if someone else like collegegirl disapears for a few days you have even less. So it may get pretty hard to rate 10 other people's posts before re-rating the same person's again. I'd recomend lowering the number to around 5-7 for now until more people start posting.

[JoeC]

I was waiting for someone to comment on that, and since you did, I have gone ahead and lowered the requirement to 5.

[Mick_Mack89]

What are the different levels of quality?

[JoeC]

As it stands now (system default), subject to modification, open to input from our members:


User is infamous around these parts -99999

User can only hope to improve -50

User has a little shameless behaviour in the past -10

User is an unknown quantity at this point 0

User is on a distinguished road 10

User will become famous soon enough 50

User has a spectacular aura about 150

User is a jewel in the rough 250

User is just really nice 350

User is a glorious beacon of light 450

User is a name known to all 550

User is a splendid one to behold 650

User has much to be proud of 1000

User has a brilliant future 1500

User has a reputation beyond repute 2000

[HotShot53]

One question... once you rate a person and leave a comment, how does that person see the comments, and can anyone else see the comments?

[JoeC]

To see your comments, you have to find the post that someone commented on and click the balances. It'll then tell you what the person said (but not who said it). Only the user and the admins can read the comments.

[HotShot53]

Hmm... that is going to make it hard for people to find the comments... is there any way of making a list of your own posts that people have rated, or somehow indicating on the posts themselves that they have been rated?

[JoeC]

Not that I know of. The system isn't without fault, but I think it's gonna still add to things around here.

[BroTrevor]

Do you think however, that this may just become another popularity contest? People will obviously vote for people they know and like.. Some may be impartial and truly vote on the posts content and worth, but...how often will that happen?

Something to think about...I'm not sure if that would happen or not, but it may not be an accurate system.

[BroTrevor]

Also...what if people don't participate in the voting? Will the system fair on its own? perhaps only a few will actually take the time to vote for posts.

What will a "I disapprove" vote do? Take away points?

Not to be a naysayer... Just trying to flush this out real good.

[JoeC]

Disapproving will take away points. I don't have an answer for the other questions. I suppose we'll just have to see.

[NeedGod]

i like this new system. i am going straight to blesseds post to vote for her and approve. i love her, she is sooo encouraging.

[BroTrevor]

SO, JoeC, I'm rather dissappointed you don't have the answers to my questions there.

Should I disapprove of that post?

<grin>

Approvals for sale! 10 dollars if you want approvals from me!

<chuckle>

[NeedGod]

oh, cmon, take that down a little. cmon, jes a little. make it 2 cents and you got a deal.

[BroTrevor]

Ok, I just went through ALL of my posts. (that took awhile)

I have 10 rep points. I never saw any post where someone gave me a rep comment or point.

So does everyone have a default of 10...or am I missing something?

(I really am interested in seeing this work)

I've been out there voting for people.

Also, I think reputation status should be tied to how much you vote for others as well. I mean, if someone just "accepts" votes, but doesn't give votes, that should be taken into account.

Imagine if you had a friend that always bought your dinner, but you never bought his? I mean...what kind of reputation would that give one? "People always buy dinner for this guy" would be his niche.

Conversely, the guy that "always buys others dinner" might be a fairly well thought of individual?

Also, this would give others incentive to not only recieve, but to also give feedback.

[HotShot53]

Yeah, everyone seems to be "On a distinguished road", which is the rank you get with 10 points... so I think everyone started with 10. (Umm.... where can you see how many points you have? Somehow I don't recall seeing that...)

[BroTrevor]

I clicked on my little "balances" deal. it told me how many I had.

[HotShot53]

If you go to your User CP you can see all the posts people have commented on, and your total points :thumbup: (thanks to Bro. Trevor for the info :worthy: ) Now the system can work good :)

[blessed]

I think the idea is ok let's see how it works

[JoeC]

If you go to your User CP you can see all the posts people have commented on, and your total points :thumbup: (thanks to Bro. Trevor for the info :worthy: ) Now the system can work good :)

Good eye! I did not know that. I need to fix something I said earlier now:

Reputation comments are not anonymous. So you'll want to be somewhat nice if posting "constructive criticism." :)

[JoeC]

Good eye! I did not know that. I need to fix something I said earlier now:

Reputation comments are not anonymous. So you'll want to be somewhat nice if posting "constructive criticism." :)

Oh wait a sec... I think that only applies to me cause the system lets admins see who left comments. One of you peons go check it out for me and report back here.

[BroTrevor]

Oh wait a sec... I think that only applies to me cause the system lets admins see who left comments. One of you peons go check it out for me and report back here.

<lowly peon goes and checks....>

I can't see hotshots name anywhere around this reputation comment...

the only reason I know it was him is because he told me...

so must be just because your an admin guy.

[JoeC]

I'm so cool. :coolbert:

[JoeC]

Oh, by the way everyone, make sure you are commenting when you approve or disapprove someone's post.

It's very annoying to have an anonymous person say that they either do or do not like your post for an anonymous reason.

[JMG]

I'm so cool. :coolbert:

HE'S COOL!!! :worthy: HAhahaha ok now will this get me more comment repuation points? :thumbup: HAhahahahahaha... :banana:

[BroTrevor]

Remember, we can "disapprove" too! That'll take away points...

<glares>

[JMG]

Wooooooooh the negative reputaion is evil!!! :aaaah:

[JoeC]

I just want to recap:


Comments are anonymous - unless you are commenting on me. I can see every comment and see who left them, not just those left for me. :ninja:

[HotShot53]

Lol, now you tell us... after I left you that negative comment...

Btw, you had a gramatical problem with your last post, I just had to copy you and use my mod powers to fix it ;)

[JoeC]

Yeah, and maybe I should add a period to your sentence up there?

[NoahL]

Oooo, a war between our fearless leader and one of the mods... Is this mutiny? :-p

[Mick_Mack89]

Come on Noah! We can get front row seats *excitedly hurries down the asle towards the ring*

[HotShot53]

I can every comment and see who left them,

Lol, come on Joe, did you really want it to say that? ;) Besides, I just had to try out being a mod somewhere.... oh, and btw, I also fixed one of your smilies on another post that became a :rolleyes:) instead of a :rolleyes: )

[JoeC]

I was probably tired when I made that mistake. When I'm tired, the words in my mind somehow don't all make it to my fingers - or my fingers will botch up the words.

It works this way when I'm talking and tired too. The words get garbled, or I stutter, or some other weird thing. It's frustratingly annoying. :mad:

[HotShot53]

Yeah, I know what you mean... I'll read over a paper I wrote the day before and realize a word or two got missed somehow...

[Blood Washed Bride]

My speling and grammer is alway perfect. I never forget word. :oP

[NoahL]

Shucks... the mutiny appears to be over... :ranting: I'm so dissapointed.

[Mick_Mack89]

Grr. And I brought popcorn for this one.

[HotShot53]

Lol, sorry guys... I had to agree not to go against the establishment when I became a moderator :( So I can't start a mutiny unless I could hack away his admin powers.... which is beyond my skills :(

[Mick_Mack89]

Well then learn those skills, duh.

[HotShot53]

I'm afraid I have a bit much to do right now to add that to my list... if someone else could do that part, though...

[Mick_Mack89]

slacker......... :harhar1:

[NeedGod]

fight fight. how did i miss that one. oh my, i always miss the juicy parts of these forums. ha, too bad i gues. i will just have to move to the states to keep up with the times. and why did it stop so fast. gee, you people dont even know how to pick a good fight. :tongue:

[BroTrevor]

I have another question regarding this system.

What are the colors of the squares supposed to mean.

Mine is green, and I've seen gray and red.

I'm assuming a particular color is a particular rating...can we see what ratings go with what colors somewhere?

Thanks.

[JoeC]

I don't really know the colors myself - we'll just have to see as we go along. They do relate to the member's reputation though.


You can tell what someone's reputation is if you hold your mouse perfectly still over their gem for a second or two. It pops up.

[BroTrevor]

Ok, so

Green = 'on the road to becoming distinguished'
Red = 'a little shameless behavior in the past'

I thought I saw a gray earlier, but can't seem to find it.

[JoeC]

You might have seen the grey in your user rep comments area (under user cp). This indicates the user has no voting power (voting power is granted after you have been a member for 30+ days and a post count of 50 or more).

[NeedGod]

well, i have a feeling either joe or matt or blessed made me a red. well, i will change now. i will not make any more red comments. and i guess will just avoid conversing with matt at all costs so i dont get to be all red again. :greetings oh, no wait, i meant :sad:

[NeedGod]

oh, i think it may have been hotshot. oh well, its so embarrasing. its so embarrasing. please remove it. please. i do so find it embarrasing. suddenly, i dont like this idea. :sad:

[HotShot53]

I don't think I gave you any negatives yet namwacha... though I don't recall for sure, so I just gave you a positive just incase ;)

[NeedGod]

oh well, i wont give anyone a chance to give me negatives any more. i have learnt the hard way. i wonder what my cousin will think of me though.

[JoeC]

I haven't been getting many negative comments myself, but that's probably because everyone is afraid of my all-seeing-eye when it comes to reputation comments. http://www.yqnews.org/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif


Anyhow Namwacha, you shouldn't take it too hard. Look at it like constructive criticism - like on one of those essays they make you do at school. http://www.yqnews.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Mick_Mack89]

well, i have a feeling either joe or matt or blessed made me a red. well, i will change now. i will not make any more red comments. and i guess will just avoid conversing with matt at all costs so i dont get to be all red again. :greetings oh, no wait, i meant :sad:

If I gave you a red it was probably by accident. I am not really sure as to what I might have said though. (My memory isn't the greatest ever)
In any case I don't have a problem with you.

[HotShot53]

You couldn't have given any negatives yet Matt, you haven't been a member of the forum long enough ;) Both Joe and Blessed's ratings carry a lot of weight, though...

But you aren't in the red anymore namwacha :)

[BroTrevor]

and here I've been voting for people like crazy...

and I have no power yet...

[JoeC]

You have power. 1 point.

I was wrong on the 30 day thing. You gain one point every thirty days. You do still have to have 50 posts before your votes can weigh in though.

[BroTrevor]

I haven't been here 30 days yet....

[collegegirl]

Maybe it is just me.....:think:, but the system currently doesn't make too much sense. I will have to use it a couple of times to get it to work correctly in my powers of reasoning.

[Mick_Mack89]

I know something has to be wrong. Why? Because I have the best reputation. hahahahahahahaha.

[HotShot53]

Do you have a complete list of what exactly adds to your rating ability, Joe? So far I've seen you get 1 point to start with, plus 1 point for every 500 posts, 1 point for every 100 points rating, and 1 point for every 30 days you've been a member... do they sound right?

[JoeC]

That's the full list, all right.

[NeedGod]

Anyhow Namwacha, you shouldn't take it too hard. Look at it like constructive criticism - like on one of those essays they make you do at school. http://www.yqnews.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif
oh, at school we get real nice essays, like 'ihave a dream' by martin luther and we are told to research and stuff. you people are too hard on school. i love school. uuummm, i guess i am a geeeekkk :thumbup: anyhow, i am not taking it hard any more, although i was abit sad the day i found it. still, i will never give anyone negatives just in case they feel the way i felt.

[blessed]

constructive criticism?? i have bad memories of those two words

[SpamBoy]

SpamBoy == You have 2 Reputation points.

number one, I want to trade them in for spam points. http://thehorde.orphebus.com/Smileys/default/crazy.gif
number two...how do I view them?

-SpamBoy
" mental note : Noise proves nothing. Often a hen who has merely laid an egg cackles as if she has laid an asteroid."

[BroTrevor]

number 1, there are no points in yucky meat dirivitives
number 2, you can view them by either, viewing everyone one of your posts and clicking on the "balances" to see if someone left you a comment on that post...(I recommend starting with your better ones) This is what I did first.

OR

You can simply click on "User CP" up at the top, and they should all be there.

[SpamBoy]

thx BroTrevor, you are very quick on the forums :)


Thread Date Comment
Alter Egos Online: 02-03-2006 04:10 PM spam is not appropriate in a place like the Sudy Hall.
Hi 02-02-2006 07:16 PM Welcome SpamBoy! =)
Hi Brothers and Sisters... 02-02-2006 06:52 PM not your intro thread
errr.... how do you tur... 02-02-2006 05:28 PM I really didn't think you'd answer these...some of these were clever.
My Intro: 02-01-2006 05:37 PM had nothing to do with the thread - empty post


someone is *way* to serious, another is blind.

-SpamBoy
"Reputation Police have struck!"

[BroTrevor]

thx BroTrevor, you are very quick on the forums :)


I speak SQL as well...

[JoeC]

someone is *way* to serious, another is blind.

And someone shares your weird sense of humour. :harhar1:

[JoeC]

1 point for every 100 points rating...

I've changed it to one point for every fifty reputation points the user has. :thumbup:

[NeedGod]

oh, i will never understand how this system works if someone doesnt explain it to me in english!!!

[JoeC]

What don't you understand?

[blessed]

Joe seems to be very famous in this rating system:think:

[JoeC]

Actually, I', still on a "distiguished road" - just like most everyone else.

[blessed]

Actually you are Joe will become famous soon enough

[JoeC]

how did that happen :think:

[Mick_Mack89]

Somebody probably made a mistake and forgot to dissaprove of your tryrannical comments. :harhar1:

[NeedGod]

oh, i dont know how it al works. anyhow. i will come on later. i have an exam today

[JoeC]

This is what the vbulletin (creator the this forum software) has to say about the user repuation system:


User Reputation in its simplest form is a ranking of your user's benefit to your
forum. Its basis comes from the opinions of all of your forum users that choose
take part in it.

Users gain and lose reputation based on how their posts are scored by other
forum participants. Users with the ability to affect reputation, will either
give or take aways points by approving or disapproving with a post's content.

User reputation can be a derisive element of your forum so great care should be
taken before a decision is made to enable it.

[blessed]

how did that happen :think:
i don't know maybe some guy whose has administrator privelages changed it...i think you know who

[JoeC]

actually, I didn't :harhar1:

[blessed]

and i sure did not so where is hotshot??? or is it when you reach a certain level you get that

[JoeC]

I just reached a certain level (+fifty) - Mick Mack will become famous soon enough too.

[HotShot53]

Lol, I wouldn't have any clue how to change it, and kind of doubt I could if I wanted to...

[blessed]

50 bucks and i'll tell u :D

[BroTrevor]

More information on this rep system.

Why does Mick_Mack have 2 little green squares?

thanks,

-Trevor

[HotShot53]

he says he has 100 points, so apparently you get an extra little green square for going over 100.... the question is if you get one for every 100, or if it's on a sliding scale like the names...

[BroTrevor]

And here I thought we were going to have to memorize a bunch of colors. Looks like it's either green, gray, or red.

[HotShot53]

yep, I was kind of guessing that from the start.. but now we have proof :)

[redeemed]

i know i'm a little late on commenting but what in the world do you vote for and how and how do i know if i've been voted on????????????? :misli:

[HotShot53]

if you like or dislike someone's post enough to rate it, you click on the little icon of scales on the top right of their post. Then you can give it a positive or negative rating, and say why.

To see if anyone has rated your posts, go to your User CP and it will list all the comments people made and tell you how much reputation you have.

[JoeC]

You can give good or bad rep to anyone. This is generally the things I look for:

Well presented post - becomes important in any post over 5 - 10 sentences (formatting is easy on my eyes, good grammar and punctuation).
A good joke.
A well thought post.
Something I enjoyed for whatever reason
If I could tell that someone else enjoyed the post (even if it wasn't a post directed at me... as in the case of the points I gave FreeAtLast for giving a hearty welcome to a new member)
In general, if it makes the forums better, I like to compliment it. If it makes them worse, I disapprove. There's the in between stuff and the occasional mischievous gift of positive or negative reputation, but I try to limit that. http://www.yqnews.org/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

Remember, when you vote positively, your full rep power is thrown into the vote. When you vote negatively, only half your power goes into the vote.

[NeedGod]

and how does one get rep power?

[HotShot53]

So far I've seen you get 1 point to start with, plus 1 point for every 500 posts, 1 point for every 100 points rating, and 1 point for every 30 days you've been a member... do they sound right?

Back on page 7 I listed the ways to get rating power...

[Babyruth]

Ok, this is a question kind of related to the repuation system, and I didn't want to start a new thread, so I'll just stick it here. Ok, so you know the green boxes that show up on your posts or profile? Well, it used to be that when you hovered your mouse over them, a little title thing would show up. Well, about 3 or more months ago, my computer stopped showing it, so I assumed it was gone. But, just last night, on someone else's computer, it showed them! I was disappointed because I haven't gotten to see them for a long time. So, why aren't mine showing up? Can someone help me?

[JoeC]

Sounds like a browser issue to me. hmm....

[Babyruth]

So, how do I fix it?

[JoeC]

I don't know.

[EllyMae]

Well, it used to be that when you hovered your mouse over them, a little title thing would show up.

I didn't know that! That's awesome. :D

I'm a splendid one to behold......... lol.

[BroTrevor]

So, how do I fix it?


try tools- > internet options - > Advanced.


Click "Always expand alt text for images" under the "accessibility" header.


It MAY help. If that doesn't I would try to click the "restore defaults" on the same tab.

[Babyruth]

Thanks Bro. T. Unfortunately, it didn't work. Oh well.

[JoeC]

Sorry we couldn't help, Ruth. :(

[EllyMae]

Aww... see Ruth, he does care.

:D

[Babyruth]

Sorry we couldn't help, Ruth. :(
Who's we? :D Sorry, couldn't resist.

Bro. T, thanks for your help!

Ellymae, I have no idea what you are talking about.

[Skirty]

Mine just started doing it Ruth ... they were working fine yesterday :think:

[AlanaH]

I didn't know that! That's awesome. :D

I'm a splendid one to behold......... lol.

So am I.....:)
I love it....

Wondering what the next title is after Post Master? Post Zombie I think....ugh, I don't like the sound of that.

[HotShot53]

So am I.....:)
I love it....

Wondering what the next title is after Post Master? Post Zombie I think....ugh, I don't like the sound of that.

Yep, Zombie is next... then you get your own special title ;)

[AlanaH]

Wonder what that will be???? I'm going to have to majorly bribe somebody to give me the title that I want. :)

[HotShot53]

Wonder what that will be???? I'm going to have to majorly bribe somebody to give me the title that I want. :)

Just make sure someone suggests it for you... cause if you suggest it, it's automatically ruled out ;)

[AlanaH]

Ok...I'll make sure to tell everyone what title I want. :)

[Babyruth]

I have a suggestion. Since almost everyone who posts regularly on here all have "Reputation's Beyond Repute," we should have new titles for new amounts of rep, or however the system works. I know this means a lot more time. But... if it happened someday, like the allowance of me to change my name, it would be a nice thing! :D

[HotShot53]

I would assume it's a simple matter of adding some more levels, and putting in some more words.... but I haven't the faintest clue if it really is that simple or not ;)

[BroTrevor]

I would assume it's a simple matter of adding some more levels, and putting in some more words.... but I haven't the faintest clue if it really is that simple or not ;)


Pretty sure it is...

[EllyMae]

C'mon Mr. Computer Know-It-Alls, you can do it! I have faith in you... :D

[AgapZoe]

C'mon Mr. Computer Know-It-Alls, you can do it! I have faith in you... :D

hmmm :)................