is it just me?

[zippnkandibar]

maybe it's just me, and the guys from my church are just shy, but sometimes it feels like i get more respect out in the world than i do in my own church. i'm not saying that any of the guys here are ungentlemanly (yes...it's a word now), but it seems to me that alot of the guys in the world are even more of gentlemen than the guys in the Message! like i said, it could be just at my church, but still.
of course, i am in no way degrading the brothers at my church. they are good guys but sometimes they can be so disrespectful to us younger girls )around 13-22). hm...thoughts?

[NeedGod]

i think it is because they are so sheltered, they dont have the smooth ways of the world. but trust me, it is better that those out there. you see, a sheperd is rarely ever smooth, but a wolf is sleek and it creeps up on you. they may be coarse and even crude, but the respect you seem to be getting from outside is not real. it is hoaxed as they just want to win you over with their words. the devil is also that sleek. he seems to be nice and understanding but after a short time, he gets eve to bite the apple.

[NeedGod]

also, the guys in church are themselves,, those outside arent. remember this. of course some people in church are not real believers. the devil may put make believers in the church to try and decieve the believers, so beware of those too.

[JoeC]

Good points from namwacha.

I would ask you to clarify/illustrate for us what you mean by the following quotes:

they are good guys but sometimes they can be so disrespectful to us younger girls

it feels like i get more respect out in the world than i do in my own church

Who are "they"? Older brothers? Peers? Younger brothers?

What kind of respect are you talking about?

[zippnkandibar]

yeah, i realized i didn't make all that very clear.
in answer to your first question, they are mostly the younger Brothers about 13-25. they will completely disregard requests made by myself and other girls, crude comments, and often just general disrespect for our privacy as girls. i realize i have said things that i shouldn't have said, but they continue to do so.

hm...it may not be such a big deal but i just wonder sometimes how some worldly men can be much better gentlemen then the guys in my church

namwacha- those are good points, thank you for bringing them up

[Richard]

To answer your question...................
Maybe the young men in your church are immature or maybe they just do not know how to relate to women.

Regarding the men of the world, their ultimate goal is to get physical with a female and they will do whatever it takes to satisfy that desire. However, they are unbelievers who are genuine people.

[JoeC]

As far as the guys at your church are concerned - yes, they should still be gentleman.

However, it may be that they have not received the proper instruction at home or, with the younger ones, are still immature.

[NeedGod]

oh, thanks zippy, just be careful when relating to them. all4Jesus had a problem with a guy in her church too. maybe you should also talk to her and share any advice you get. she had lots of problems.

[chloe]

In the walk of life you meet different kind of people. I think you should try telling the more mature ones that there are certain things that they do, that do not please you. Hopefully some of them will be appreciative because they will have learnt something about themselves that they need to change.

Hope this makes sense

[NeedGod]

sense? sense? oh, who needs sense when you can give a solution that works? who needs sense indeed?

[zippnkandibar]

thank you guys for your thoughts. i think that alot of the older guys at my church don't realize how much of an example they are to the younger ones.
thanks again!

[NeedGod]

you are welcom zip, anytime...we are here to try and help if we can

[Unregistered]

alot out of guys that go to message churches tend to be more isolated and sheltered than worldly guys and are more immature for their age than a worldly guy.
They'll grow in their time, none of us are anything that God doesnt allow, and He will make them just as He will make Us perfect in His own time.
Remember, it's in His time, not Yours. Be patient :)

[NeedGod]

yup, for the good of those who love the Lord

[fredmaina]

the unregistered fellow who said that God will make u perfect, i want to agree with you.God is continuing to make us perfect untill the day Jesus Christ comes back for us!!

[God'schild]

i went to public school all the way till grade 10 and the last public school i went to, my sister and i were the only ones in that school that believed the message...(even guys in that school showed repect for what we believed, and no they did not put up a front) i've noticed that as well in someone messages churches i've been to the guys are very shy and some are very disrespectful... I have 2 brother-in-laws that don't believe the message and they show respect(it is not a put on) to those who do believe the message.. I have friends that don't believe this message and respect me for what i believe...

[joris]

alot out of guys that go to message churches tend to be more isolated and sheltered than worldly guys and are more immature for their age than a worldly guy.
They'll grow in their time, none of us are anything that God doesnt allow, and He will make them just as He will make Us perfect in His own time.
Remember, it's in His time, not Yours. Be patient :)I'm not sure what you are saying here, how are worldly guys more mature?

[Christian-Samurai]

I have a bit of a problem with this myself, because I know what worldly guys are really like, I have worked plenty with them and have been around plenty of them. And I would like to illustrate one example, A boss I had ( a worldly guy, a married one and not to much older than I am ) and I were working in the back room one day and we were cleaning up this mess, he says to me hold one sec, I want to call someone to help us, he calles a young girl to help us clean up and before she comes back to help, he tells me, yeah we dont really need her help with this but its nice to have something to look at when we work.

Now this is only one example of my experinces. Now while I do have many more and many times worse than the one I have givin you, I must say I fail to see where you are making your statements from. From my experices I do know that "guys" can act pretty mature when better suits to help them get in with the women. And yet when they arent around they do what you see in my example. To me that shows no repsect at all, only an act.

As for the Brothers, I no not know where they are in there walk with chirst, But if they are truely Sons of God, then you are right God will have to lead them to where they need to be, but if they are acting disrespectful as you say, then it sounds to me that they are acting just right for a worldly guy.

[redeemed]

amen. my dad manages a horse ranch that we live on and there are a couple of guys around here that might do the same kind of thing (can't say for sure but i really don't trust many of them) so i can totally see where you're coming from.