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JoeC

12-20-2005, 01:16 PM

What age do you see yourself getting married? (indicate what age you are now)

I'm 18 and I don't see myself getting married before 24.

Any other takers?

collegegirl

12-20-2005, 01:29 PM

I am 17 and I don't see myself getting married until after 20.

blessed

12-20-2005, 06:08 PM

im 25 and i thought i would have been married by now :D but unforunately there is no one in my church......im not sure if that is fortunate or unfortunate

Christian-Samurai

12-20-2005, 06:30 PM

I am 27 and I see myself getting married at 27 :D

All4Jesus

12-20-2005, 08:40 PM

i'm too young for that but it will be nice to get married by 25. I can wait for as long God want's me to.

Christian-Samurai

12-20-2005, 08:47 PM

I think I have waited long enough :)

Babyruth

12-21-2005, 05:53 AM

I'm 18 and do not see myself getting married. If I do, it will probably be when I'm in my 30s. I have things I want to do before I get married, if it's God's will. You all know my standing on that, I think...

HotShot53

12-21-2005, 02:29 PM

I'm 23 now... and I'll get married whenever God shows me the right girl....add on a couple years for courtship and engagement... so even if I meet someone today I'll probably be at least 25-26 before I actually get married... lol, Samurai doesn't seem to be getting married that late after all ;)

blessed

12-26-2005, 03:25 PM

I am 27 and I see myself getting married at 27 :D
when is your bday again cause the year is almost over and u are not married yet:D

marichino_freedom

01-09-2006, 11:59 PM

i'm 21, and i have no idea....

NeedGod

01-10-2006, 12:35 AM

marriage huh? oh my, now you all got me interested :thumbup:

NeedGod

01-10-2006, 12:36 AM

Christian-Samurai

01-10-2006, 01:53 AM

I see nothing wrong with getting a PHd but thats a long time in school ugh lol and even if your husband didnt want you to work after you got doesnt mean it is a waste, you learn alot along the way and each new thing that you do learn you can bring to the marriage, it can be a big help in anything you do, so dont worry to much about it sis :) God has it all planned out

NeedGod

01-10-2006, 02:18 AM

aha, so the fear is the length of time in school. well, i am what people tend to call a geek. why, i even have the complete package, spectacles, scarves at winter and big books at hand. i am only lacking braces and it would be complete :nerd: lol, anyhow, i love being in school and i started real early so i might complete university undergrad when i am 22, go straight to honours, i intend to get honours, then go straight to phd. i know it wont go to waste samurai, its just others who think so. but i will do it all the same, just for satisfaction. and i think i will be a better mother to my children if i understand them better all the way to college.

collegegirl

01-10-2006, 01:45 PM

I am going to college to help me be a better wife and mother. I am going for cooking, and then Whatever other classes I take will help me when I homeschool my children.

Christian-Samurai

01-10-2006, 04:14 PM

I am probibly the biggest computer/graphics/web nerd on this board and yes girls i freely admit it. :) Keep at it sisters

JoeC

01-10-2006, 07:24 PM

i am nearly 20(in a few months) but i want to get a phd before i get married. problem is i keep being told that it will scare off potential suitors. and what more, i may end up being a house wife if that is what my husband will want so it may all go to waste. still, i will just wait till the right guy comes along. the guy from whose rib i was removed :peep:

I have no problem with girl getting a PhD - though it is true that some guys will be intimidate by it or even the desire for it.

I'd like to make some things clear though, as gently as possible. I notice you said "i may end up being a house wife if that is what my husband will want..."

If you have children, it is not a matter of what your husband wants. The Bible teaches us a woman's place is in the home. If your husband lets you work then HE is in the WRONG.

If you don't have any children, the case is different. From what I can tell from Brother Branham's teachings, if the wife cannot have children (not if the wife decides not to have children), then to occupy her time in the workforce would be fine. But it is still the husband's duty to ensure that his wife is not in a unhealthy work environment - because women are the weaker vessel (that is, more susceptible).

So, yes, for practical purposes your PhD will not be useful - unless you are called to be single (don't bet on it, very few of us are). You could homeschool your children very well - but a BA would do the job just as well. If you are pursuing it for intellectual enrichment to give you something to do while waiting for more of God's plan to unfold, that's fine! But you should be open to God's plan possibly going another direction.

Last point. I don't think it would be right to bring college debts into your marriage when the degree serves no practical purpose inside that marriage. Debt is not of God. After you get your BA you should consider paying that off with some time in the workforce, then maybe moving onto further education, always being careful not to get to far into debt. I don't know about where you're from, but in the US and PhD can easily take a person past $100,000.

marichino_freedom

01-11-2006, 12:34 AM

i think i'll just stick to getting my BS and masters for now...

NeedGod

01-11-2006, 12:58 AM

joe, thank you bro. now i feel like i am not a wierdo, and if i am i am glad to be a wierdo for Jesus. He loves me this way. well, if i have children, i will stay home for them, yes, i will. :banana: and i will use my phd and the word of God to help me guide them. i know we are the weaker vessel. even in school, girls tend to get swayed into the wrong things faster and are more susceptible to peer pressure.

Christian-Samurai

01-11-2006, 01:05 AM

yet again the mighty Joe has spoken *gong gong gong* lol

NeedGod

01-11-2006, 01:11 AM

what? i thgouth i was the one who just spoke :think:

Christian-Samurai

01-11-2006, 01:28 AM

wasnt talking about who just spoke I was just talking about our overlord bringing wisdom to us :D lol

NeedGod

01-11-2006, 01:29 AM

i was beginning to think you had me confused for pizza guy. remember you said joe was a pizza? i think we should all call him pizzaguy.

Christian-Samurai

01-11-2006, 01:39 AM

Yes I remember, i wrote it lol anyway off to bed with me i have be at work at 3 am sigh :( i hate work road trips

NeedGod

01-11-2006, 03:40 AM

oh, ok. goodnight then

Jeni

01-12-2006, 12:37 AM

This is an extremely interesting discussion...

I'm "19" and I don't see myself married anytime soon. maybe...within 5 years?

So the problem for me is...do I go to school?

And if not...what do I do in the meantime?

I certainly don't want to waste my time...and whatever I end up doing..I want to benefit the body of Christ in some way. There are so many places that God can use me...but so far I haven't felt a pull in any certain direction. So for now..I'm sitting duck..studying the Word and building friendships. It seems like its the only thing I can do. I hate making a move without God..ya know? I don't feel pulled towards college...or anything in particular really. And I'm in constant prayer over it...but nothing seems to be "BOOM" yet.

in a way..its slightly depressing. But...I'm sure there's a reason for it all. Yes, I've come to terms with it!

blessed

01-12-2006, 12:50 AM

how old are u namwacha??

NeedGod

01-12-2006, 12:51 AM

oh, i am 20 going on 100

NeedGod

01-12-2006, 12:52 AM

oh no, look what you made me do. you made me say my age out loud *blush* i think that is supposed to be unwomanly or something

Jeni

01-12-2006, 12:58 AM

HA!

unwomanly. thats funny. ur too young to worry about that

Christian-Samurai

01-12-2006, 01:00 AM

ah yes 20 i remember like it was 7 years ago lol

NeedGod

01-12-2006, 01:01 AM

aha, in that case, I AM 20 YEARS OLD. ha, there. :lol:

Jeni

01-12-2006, 01:01 AM

there ya go...say it with pride! u should run outside right now and shout it out. just for kicks.

...or not.

NeedGod

01-12-2006, 01:02 AM

ah yes 20 i remember like it was 7 years ago lol
oh, age has crept in. :no-no-no: but when it all comes down to it, we are age mates because women mature faster than men

Christian-Samurai

01-12-2006, 01:02 AM

why would she want to be kicked for being 20??

NeedGod

01-12-2006, 01:02 AM

i think i would get expelled from uni if i did that jeni. lol

NeedGod

01-12-2006, 01:03 AM

oh samurai, you are a gone case. :lol:

Jeni

01-12-2006, 01:03 AM

maybe THATS why people avoid me...

NeedGod

01-12-2006, 01:04 AM

oh yeah, if you went about shouting, i am not too sure i would not avoid you. but then again, maybe, just maybe, i am alot like you...not :harhar1:

Jeni

01-12-2006, 01:06 AM

OH u speak my language!!!

FRIEND!!!!

:harhar1:

NeedGod

01-12-2006, 01:19 AM

oh no, now i am being dragged into her mad world. help, help somebody, help me please. :yay: oops, too late, i am in already

Jeni

01-12-2006, 01:19 AM

-insert evil laugh here-

: )

:banana:

NeedGod

01-12-2006, 01:22 AM

oh look, her world is not too bad, there are people screaming all over and it is all messy. :imslow: i could get used to this. oh, ok, so maybe this smilie is inapropriate but i needed to use a smilie :)

blessed

01-14-2006, 07:48 PM

you all are CRAZY

HotShot53

01-14-2006, 10:51 PM

Lol, is that anything new blessed?

NeedGod

01-18-2006, 07:44 AM

that is new to me. it is because i thought she wuold say 'WE', not 'YOU'

blessed

01-18-2006, 11:56 AM

:aaaah: i am perfectly sane

You people are insane :D

BroTrevor

01-18-2006, 01:18 PM

Ok, so I know I'm late to this thread...about the college and PHds for girls and stuff. Can I chime in my two cents?

<thinks about hitting submit now and awaiting permission>

<decides to continue on without>

Ok, I just had a thought...but keep in mind...it was just a thought I had while reading this thread, so don't take it as I really thought long and hard about it.

so's ya know where I'm coming from anyhow.

Enough preamble...to the thought!

Do sisters consider, if they want to go to college, but don't know if it will be useful in marriage, or if they just don't know what they want...do sisters consider a possible teaching degree to enable them to be better at homeschooling their children?

I really would love to see some "message" schools. (yah..I know they can't be connected to the church for fear of "organization" <quivers w\ fear>) but couldn't some enterprising sisters offer to teach kids in their homes for those mothers who aren't able to homeschool their kids and such.

I'm just really interested in this kind of thing. I actually really wish I could do this. I could almost be convinced to leave my job to do this kind of thing.

But seriously, if a sister was blessed with a decent sized house with a basement or something they could turn into a classroom of sorts, one could make some extra money on the side and help out brothers and sisters in the church as well by educating their kids along with your own kids.

Does anyone else ever think of this?

Or maybe people don't think about this till their kid is almost 5....but by then it's going to be really hard to start college.

Anyhow...I remember this same conversation at WYR with Bro Barry's morning session about 5 years ago or so. Isaac Rightenower stood up and said something about why would girls go to college, aren't they supposed to be in the home anyhow? The poor boy, he was crucified on the spot. <chuckle>

-Trevor

HotShot53

01-19-2006, 12:36 AM

Lol, I don't know Isaac... but poor him, I'm sure he did get crucified for saying that ;)

NeedGod

01-19-2006, 12:56 AM

i dont know what to say. i agree with you but i am in college and i intend to finish my phd, or at least masters. so i dont know whether i should be writing this post at all. but thing is, i think we learn some things in school that would help us with our children at home.

also, it is better if a sister( i think) wanted to finish her schooling to do so. this is because they wont go into the marriage feeling cheated out of something in life. this might cause contention and disatisfaction in the future.

and in adition, i think also that if anything were to happen to her husband, she would have a way of supporting herself and her children. and what more, if it is bussiness school and such, she can help run the family business and the like.

what about holding conversation with her husband. she needs to be able to do so. to talk to him about all the complex things. i want to be able to even advice him on his job at times. this way, he will talk to me more than he has to talk to the worldly women in his ofice. you know, if he has to talk to them all the time about things, the devil might use that to break a marriage. i have seen it happen. i want to do it for that too.

also, if she were to stay single( remember there are fewer men than women) she needs money and a job to support herself with.

maybe these are all excuses i have come up with in my head. i stand to be corrected. i just want to get as far as possible with my education. not for job purposes, just for personal satisfaction. i dont intend to work if i get married, not at all. i intend to raise my children and take care of my husband unless he cant work himself. still i want an education.

please correct me if i am wrong. i just gave my opinion on it. maybe i am totally off. i need to know.

BroTrevor

01-19-2006, 12:39 PM

I am in no way trying to dissuade any sister from going to college. Please don't read that into my comments.

I think if you don't have anything else to do, getting general education credits out of the way is a good thing while you seek the Lord's wisdom and guidance. I'm not a fan of sitting idle.

I do agree with Joe C. debt is not a good idea...so if schooling is going to take you thousands of dollars into debt, I would be extremely hesitant.

One thing I'm wondering is...why a Phd? Will it help you to feel more fullfilled? Will it enable you to get a better job? Is a masters or bachelors not enough? What is your motive? Only you can answer this question, and I don't even expect an answer here... I just know I would be asking myself and searching out my motives in going that far into college.

Again, don't read anything into my comments, I'm certainly not one to say one way or the other. Personally, I have never went to college. I learned everything about my job on my own, and used experience to gain better employment. More than experience however, I believe God led me to the right jobs and opened the door. Now, looking back, I think it may have been easier on me had I gone to college, and I still think about it as it may enable me to move up in the career world. So anyhow, I've never been to college, and I don't know what it's like...so my comments are just simply....comments.

-Trevor

blessed

01-19-2006, 03:23 PM

also, if she were to stay single( remember there are fewer men than women) she needs money and a job to support herself with.
im single and i support my self...so i need a good job..and the only way to get a good job is to have a proper education. im halfway through my bachelors, i don't think im going to do my masters it all depends on where the Lord leads..i believe that things like this should be done prayfully...i took me some years before i decided to go back to school...mainly after i was firmly grounded in the word cause i see everyday the negative infulence university has on believers who are not grounded in the word.

If it hinders your salvation then leave it alone for a while until you are much more mature, if u can handle it then as long as it is God's will go ahead.

Lord Bless

BroTrevor

01-19-2006, 03:53 PM

i see everyday the negative infulence university has on believers who are not grounded in the word.

Words to remember for those who are considering college.

I am thankful I didn't go to college right out of highschool. I look back on my life at that time, and I know I wasn't strong enough then.

Christian-Samurai

01-20-2006, 01:46 AM

I was Homeschooled and did as Collegegirl is, dual inrollment, and I now that I am done I can say I am glad I did do it that way, See for me I never joined "college life" I didnt do the dorm thing or hang out with fellow students, I just went to school, interacted with them at school, then went about my own business afterward. I am not saying that people cant enjoy being apart of it but in College as with any non "true" christian based school system, there are worldly ppl all over. When I went I never felt the connection to join in and be apart of that world.

I was in one class one day and somehow the topic got onto drinking beer and wine and I said I have never done that, and one of the students said, what no way everyone has done it, I said no I have not, and it prompted another student to say they also hadnt drank these things, and the student that said that everyone did was kinda dumbfounded. I have also been asked to go hang out at the bars with other students after class before, but I delcined their offer, told them I dont drink and they said I could get a pepsi, and I said no thank you, I prefer not to go to bars. SO again I was left out of the loop.

I learned alot in my life experinces at a very young age that I was ready for anything that college had to throw at me and I passed with flying colors. I worked while in college and before I even went so I had that work place experince. I also taught myself most of what I know about computers and Graphics before I entered college. When I did start I was well prepared and Was helping the other students in my classes because I already understood how to work the things needed. I can see the benefit of both work experince and college experince.

HotShot53

01-20-2006, 09:50 PM

JoeC

01-20-2006, 10:51 PM

...i see everyday the negative infulence university has on believers who are not grounded in the word.

I know what you're saying. It is my belief that a believer should have the Holy Ghost before going to college/university - not just because the peer pressure (to me, that's a small part), but because the humanistic education that is taught within those walls can easily uproot a believer who has not had a personal experience with God.

HotShot53

01-20-2006, 11:47 PM

In PA there is now an investigation by the legislature about public funding for colleges, since colleges have such a huge bias... the average college has about a 5:1 liberal to conservative ratio for proffessors in business, 6:1 in sciences, and something like 36:1 in humanities... (I may be a number or two off, but you get the point). And since most liberals aren't Christians, you can see what the college atmosphere is going to be like...

JoeC

01-21-2006, 12:00 AM

But is there any easy way to remove that bias? I mean, the conservative professor of philosophy is going to be a pretty rare creature, don't you think?

HotShot53

01-21-2006, 12:08 AM

They had examples of conservatives who would have become professors, except that the bias against them was too much. It's shown that if you are a conservative, you have to be more qualified and have more papers published to get hired or promoted than if you are a liberal. (The same bias is shown against women and Christians) So if they can get rid of the bias by making the colleges suable for it or something, then there will be more conservative professors

JoeC

01-21-2006, 12:28 AM

Ah, I see. Didn't realize that. I just thought that conservatives mostly leaned away from humanities while the liberals get all caught up in that humanistic vein of thought...

NeedGod

01-21-2006, 01:52 AM

i get your point people, thing though is, there, it is easy to get a job without college, here in kenya, and in fact in most of africa, it is not possible. even people with bachelor degrees are getting jobs just as housemaids and some girls choose to sleep around for the money. i dont want that to happen to me. for a woman here to get a job, and a good job, one has to be good in what one does. that is why i want to get a phd. that way i will get a fairly good job. life is harder these sides somehow, you understand? due to the bad economy. and if one wants a job, one has to have connection to big people or have rich parents. but since i have neither, i have to work extra hard in school to get anything in life. thats how it is here.
well, i know all about the whole college dorm thing. i have been in university the past two years. i have seen it and it is true, it is very tempting, but i know i can make it. God will see me through.
but pray for me so that God shows me what is right for me.
mostly, i just want to go to school because i love knowing things. self satisfaction i guess. like i want to do a phd in english because i want to feewl i know all i can in the subject. but i am still praying about it.

JoeC

01-21-2006, 11:01 AM

Wow, I didn't know BA degrees were a dime a dozen over there... that's too bad.

Babyruth

01-22-2006, 02:20 AM

After last night's service, I'm not sure what to do anymore. I know what I want, but I don't know what God wants. Everything I've done so far, I've prayed about and everything has turned out in favor of me going for Occupational therapy, but a pastor said one time that even if it seems the right thing to do, it may not be. I don't know what to think anymore. I'm not so great at taking hints, I need God to come to my doorstep and tell me. I need to get more in tune with Him so I'll know, but it's hard. I need to finish applying for college, but I don't know if I should or not. I'm praying, but I'm not getting any answer. On Wednesday, I was praying and felt that I should do it, but know I don't know if that's just me. I still don't want to get married and if I did, would have no clue who I would marry anyway. I don't want to wait around "until I get married." There are tons of girls that don't get married, I very well could be one of them. But, I don't want to get in God's way. I need help!!!

NeedGod

01-26-2006, 05:42 AM

YEAH JOE, it is so these sides. and i dont want to wait around till i get married either. as ruth said, many girls dont get married anyway. iin fact most married sisters in kenya work to make ends meet.

blessed

02-21-2006, 05:00 PM

Just came across this intersting quote and i thought i would share it with you all since the talk of marriage seems to be popping up everywhere

The kind of a woman that a man would choose will reflect his ambition and his character. If a man chooses the wrong woman, it reflects his character. And what he ties himself to shows truly what's in him. A woman reflects what's in the man when he chooses her for wife. It shows what's down in him. No matter what he says outside, watch what he marries.
THE CHOOSING OF A BRIDE 65-0429E

Unregistered

02-21-2006, 07:50 PM

Amen to that!.... Okay, so I am, as most of you know by now, in university completing my B.A. I think that it is very easy to put the Message second when all your time and thought revolves around school, with all of its influence. I have seen young people stop coming to church once they have entered college/university. So I think that it is okay for a girl (or a guy for that matter) to go to university, she just has to been VERY grounded in this Message, and know who she is and what she stands for. I found that in my experience of university, you can choose to either be as sociable as you want or as individual as you want...it's not like high school where you feel as though you have to live up to your friends or something. So in regards to women in higher education, I'm all for it. For the girls that are not going to marry, then she has to support herself...more education for the better jobs. I think Trevor mentioned something about why go for a PhD. Well, I think someone should if they are capable of doing it. It is self-fulfilling to a certain extent - it's not everything - it's more of a prestige thing, I guess. However, I also believe that once in this Message when a girl marries, then she should stay home and be with the kids etc.. like Bro. Branham laid out, cause today, with double income families, the kids are the ones who suffer...

JoeC

02-21-2006, 08:32 PM

Unregistered, we don't know who you are, so no, we didn't know you were going for a BA.

As far as the PhD thing is concerned? I agree with you, it would be purely for self-fulfillment - certainly not financial fulfilment. Check out the article below.

I also heard somewhere that PhDs have a smaller lifetime earnings than those who hold a Masters, on average. It's because of all that post-doctoral work for measly pennies along with the high cost of grad school. And yes, I know you can get grad school grants, but the statistics are still there folks.

Wanted: Really Smart Suckers
Grad school provides exciting new road to poverty
by Anya Kamenetz
April 27th, 2004 10:10 AM

Here's an exciting career opportunity you won't see in the classified ads. For the first six to 10 years, it pays less than $20,000 and demands superhuman levels of commitment in a Dickensian environment. Forget about marriage, a mortgage, or even Thanksgiving dinners, as the focus of your entire life narrows to the production, to exacting specifications, of a 300-page document less than a dozen people will read. Then it's time for advancement: Apply to 50 far-flung, undesirable locations, with a 30 to 40 percent chance of being offered any position at all. You may end up living 100 miles from your spouse and commuting to three different work locations a week. You may end up $50,000 in debt, with no health insurance, feeding your kids with food stamps. If you are the luckiest out of every five entrants, you may win the profession's ultimate prize: A comfortable middle-class job, for the rest of your life, with summers off.

Welcome to the world of the humanities Ph.D. student, 2004, where promises mean little and revolt is in the air. In the past week, Columbia's graduate teaching assistants went on strike and temporary, or adjunct, faculty at New York University narrowly avoided one. Columbia's Graduate Student Employees United seeks recognition, over the administration's appeals, of a two-year-old vote that would make it the second officially recognized union at a private university. NYU's adjuncts, who won their union in 2002, reached an eleventh-hour agreement for health care and office space, among other amenities.

Grad students have always resigned themselves to relative poverty in anticipation of a cushy, tenured payoff. But in the past decade, the rules of the game have changed. Budget pressures have spurred universities' increasing dependence on so-called "casual labor," which damages both the working conditions of graduate students and their job prospects. Over half of the classroom time at major universities is now logged by non-tenure-track teachers, both graduate teaching assistants—known as TAs—and adjuncts. At community colleges, part-timers make up 60 percent of the faculties.

Average teaching loads for grad students have increased, while benefits are often cut off after five years. Humanities TAs are paid stipends ranging from less than $10,000 at a public school like SUNY-Buffalo to $18,000 at unionized NYU. Adjuncts, more and more likely to be recent post-docs who couldn't find a better position, earn less than $3,000 a course—usually without benefits, and far less than the $60,000 yearly national average for full-time professors. Meanwhile, the debt burden has grown: The average holder of a graduate degree spends 13.5 percent of his or her income paying back loans (eight percent is considered manageable). Fifty-three percent of those holding master's degrees, 63 percent of those holding doctorates, and 69 percent of those holding professional degrees are over $30,000 in debt. If they end up as "marginal employees," the academic freedom and security of tenure is replaced by a constant anxiety and alienation.

But the Internet means no isolated community has to stay that way. A new group of tortured, funny, largely anonymous websites are providing an outlet for academics who feel like they're getting spanked by their alma mater. They have names like Invisible Adjunct, (a)musings of a grad student, Beyond Academe, and Barely Tenured, and they address the emotional just as much as the practical consequences of competing in, and losing, the academic job-market lottery.

Founded in February 2003, Invisible Adjunct quickly became one of the most popular such blogs. Dozens of regular posters followed discussion threads like "The Old Boy Network" and "Is Tenure a Cartel?" Invisible Adjunct's author—call her IA—is a New Yorker in her late thirties with a Ph.D. in British history, an adjunct for the past two years. "I've spent all these years and I've failed," says IA, who entered graduate school in 1993 and received her Ph.D. in 1999. "You agree to do this five-to-seven-year low-paid apprenticeship because you're joining this guild. And if you end up as an adjunct you think, wow, I'm really getting screwed over."
The also pseudonymous Thomas H. Benton was a frequent contributor to Invisible Adjunct's blog and has penned a series of cautionary columns for the Chronicle of Higher Education. He is even more blunt than IA. "The premise of graduate education in the humanities is a lie: Students are not apprentices preparing for a life of scholarship and teaching," he says. "They are a cheap source of labor and status for institutions and faculty and, after they earn their degrees, most join the reserve army of the academic underemployed." Benton, a professor at a small liberal arts college, warns his students about trying to follow in his footsteps. "My experience as a working-class kid who finally earned an Ivy League Ph.D. is that higher education is not about social mobility or personal enrichment; it is one trap among many for people who are uninitiated into the way power and influence operate in this culture."

Grad school applications are up slightly over the last decade, as unemployed college grads seek a haven from the job market. Every winter, a new crop of bright, bookish, maybe slightly fuzzy-headed kids, the kind who cover the sidewalks of the Lower East Side and Williamsburg, decide they're sick enough of the 9-to-5 grind to borrow some money and go back to school.

Unlike trade schools, most graduate programs do not offer prospective students detailed data on job placement, which varies widely from program to program. Tri-State Semi Driver Training School in Middletown, Ohio, for example, guarantees a job before you even start driving, while the American Language Institute in San Diego promises lifetime placement assistance to its teachers of English as a foreign language. Your local Ivy League English department can't offer the same deal: Last year, the Modern Language Association expected some 965 Ph.D.'s to be granted, while only 422 assistant professorships were advertised, a drop of 20 percent from the year before. In the foreign languages, there were only 263 positions advertised (for the 620 Ph.D.'s projected), a drop of one-third from the previous year. The MLA estimates that students who entered English programs in 2003 had a 20 percent chance of coming out with a tenure-track position. The situation is better in history, where the number of new Ph.D.'s in 2003 almost equalled the number of new jobs, after a decade of "overproduction," with growth coming in trendy specializations like the Middle East.

But numbers like these do little to deter the best students. "Top undergraduates are arrogant; they lack perspective," says Benton. "They've been fawned over all their lives, and they think grad school is there to help them realize their potential, not to use them up and toss them out."

Dan Friedman completed a Ph.D. in comparative literature from Yale University this spring after 10 years. He now teaches at a private high school in New Jersey, making twice the $25,000 he was offered as a university part-timer. He says that as a TA back at Yale, he tried to warn his favorite students. "I've had a few bright students, majors, who are often interested in carrying on and I've said to all of them, 'Don't do it.' I really wanted them to stop and think. And without exception, they thought I was joking. Only one of them came back to me—she ended up at NYU—and said, 'Now I know what you were talking about.'" Friedman says, however, that he isn't sure he would have taken his own advice back then. "I didn't know what I was getting into. It would have been different if I had known. You're committed to your subject and you think, I want to study literature. You don't think of yourself as a 40-year-old trying to support a family."

As a scholar of contemporary theory, Friedman quotes a cultural critic's perspective on the economic impact of the love of learning. "As graduate students get more and more exploited, people believe in it more and do it despite the difficulty." He refers to the 2001 book The Invisible Heart by feminist economist Nancy Folbre, which describes how the work that is most important to a society tends to be the most undervalued. "Teachers, nurses, people who do things they really care about, get shafted."
Devotion to the academic world, however, is not necessarily healthy. "People develop this identity," says IA. "They say, 'This intellectual work is who I am.' And it's hard to give that up. Even though there are two jobs in your field this year and 300 candidates, it still feels like you've failed."
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JoeC

02-21-2006, 11:20 PM

Here's a counter article from About.com: Lifetime Earnings Soar with Education (http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa072602a.htm)

It really does vary greatly with the field though. One should definitely check into their field rather than rely on averages. Personally, I'd like to achieve a Masters of Science. - PhD would be cool because of the research opportunity, but if I want a family AND a home life, it's not gonna work out.

You're looking at six years for a Masters degree (that's if you stay on track). Then a PhD ranges from 4-8 years. That's 10 - 14 years of schooling! Assuming you started at 18 years of age, you'd be getting out between 28 and 32 years of age!

To be sure, a PhD is not something to be set out for on a whim. If it gets you motivated, that's fine. But after that baccalaureate or masters, you'd better sit down and really think it through.

Under any circumstances, one shouldn't pile up debt. Earn a degree. Pay it off. Earn a degree. Pay it off. One can pay off a debt while earning another degree, but never let those debts pile up. If you earn a higher level degree but have a huge debt load because you didn't take care of your finances as you went along, you're nothing but a smart idiot.

desertroses

02-22-2006, 01:19 PM

[quote=JoeC]Unregistered, we don't know who you are, so no, we didn't know you were going for a BA.

Ahh! It's desertroses!! How did I get unregistered???....by the way, Joe, the stuff that you were able to pull up was very interesting!

JoeC

02-22-2006, 01:24 PM

Thanks! :dft010:

--faithful_star06--

02-23-2006, 11:16 PM

ok, so i read up to page 6 of this thread and i wanted to write before i forgot my thoughts. forgive me if i repeat something already said or if i'm COMPLETELY off topic. :)

the issue of going to college has been hard for me. i really struggled for a while because i was so afraid to choose the wrong school or just mess up and step outside of God's will for me.

i was trying to decide between two completely different majors, the pros and cons of each weighed heavily on me, but in both cases, i could use it to serve God. I want to be prepared for whatever He has planned for me, and i had to realize that He is in control. I honestly thought that i could mess things up, and then i realized "duh stupid! Nobody can mess up God's plan." n e ways, i eventually felt lead to apply at a certain school, and i'm waiting on God's leading for whatever follows.

I almost want to skip right to being married and raising a family. But as i don't know what God has planned for me i need to be able to support myself just in case i don't get married in the near future or at all. Although i have to say, since i was probly 4 years old, i've only ever wanted to be a mom and wife.

sorry, this post is sort of random :yay:

btw, i'm 18 next month, and i hope to get married sometime in my 20's, but i'm seriously leaning on God for the whole timing issue, so whenever He wants me to, will be fine.

JoeC

02-24-2006, 12:25 AM

Good for you! Way to watch for God's leading.

I do want to say as an aside that girl's shouldn't feel that they have to go to college. I know some ministers that discourage it and others who, while strongly encouraging guys too, tell the girls to take it into very careful consideration.

I just don't want anyone getting the wrong idea about it... if you're a girl and not going to college, that's fine. Though I think that a girl should busy herself in something after graduating from High School. Sitting around like a princess waiting for a guy to sweep one off one's feet isn't the way to go. :ng_thumbd

NeedGod

02-24-2006, 06:07 AM

yeah, the whole sitting around idea is not so great. one might even find strange things going on in ones mind. my mum used to tell me that an idle mind is the devil's workshop. stay busy doing something. maaybe a tailoring course or a cookery course or something if you dont want to go to college

desertroses

02-24-2006, 12:47 PM

I agree, and you know, just keep praying and believing. Bro. Branham said to never stop praying. The Lord leads :)....thank goodness too, cause it's scary to think where we may have been without Him!

NeedGod

03-06-2006, 07:25 AM

amen. the pastor has been telling us about having a vision for a long time now. i have decided i will do my undergrad because of reasons i told you all before. also, i have become so tight with my best friend and i need to get away to another country for some time. reason being its a guy and if i stick around, it will be hurting when he finally gets a girlfriend and i have to move away and apart from him. advice for all you girls, dont get best friends who are guys,coz you will be so tight then you will have to part when he gets a girlfriend and it will drive you to pieces. just thinking of it is shattering. aaarrrggghhhh!:(

redeemed_lizzi

03-08-2006, 01:01 PM

Firstly to answer what this post started off with. I used to think of getting married around 22/23 but now that the time has crept up on me, I'm tempted to push the age a little further forward. But I won't, beacuse it's not about what I want but rather what God knows is best for me.

As to eduacation....I have a BA and I am in the process of applying for an MSc and if I have the inclination, in the future (which I probably won't because there is way too much researcjh involved) I will do a Phd. However, if I get married I won't give a second thought to having to stay at home and be a housewife and mother. The way I would see it, is that education is what I was doing in the inter-rim before married life began. It is kind of like a stop gap.
I am not going to plan my life for what may happen as some people would like me to do. For example, some people say that I should go into teaching beacuse that will be fantastic if I have kids. So that when they have holidays, I will have holidays etc....nooooo!!!! I will go where God leads me. I don't even know what tomorrow holds for me, so why should I plan my life like I know what will happen 5 years from now?
If you know you want to go to University, then ask for God's blessing and go. If you don't want to go, then ask for God's blessing for what you want to do and do it. Women should not forget their roles, but that doesn't mean that if they want to educate themselves they shouldn't.

desertroses

03-08-2006, 01:49 PM

desertroses

03-08-2006, 01:55 PM

My college experiance is pretty similar to Samurai's... even though I finished high school before going to college, I finished a couple years early, so I was younger than everyone else there. Plus I commuted around an hour to college, so hanging out really wasn't much of an option (not that I would have much, anyway....) And now that I'm going to college again for my MBA, I still don't hang out with anyone, because they pretty much all hang out at the local bar after classes, and that's somewhere I don't go. Sometimes I'm disapointed that I never made any friends at college, and never experianced the hanging out and the whole "college experiance", but in the end that was probably the best thing for me.

Sorry this is late, in replying, but I was re-reading the posts and Hotshots, I know what you mean. Right now, I'm in my third year and I have a couple of friends from class, that I would sit with etc. but after, all they want to do it go to bars and get 'loaded', esp. on the weekends, which is not me at all. Thankfully, I only live about a 5 mins. from the university, so I'm grateful that I don't live in residence or anything.

NeedGod

03-13-2006, 07:02 AM

you are lucky hotshot. i had the full experience, and it was fun then, but there are so many things i did and said that i regret. i was quite popular when i was doing my three months math bridging course, i used to dress 'nice'(teeny tiny skirts and tight pants. small tops and the rest of the filth), i taked right, i was considered pretty, and i knew all the right things, like the right talk, drank the right drinks, knew the right joints etc. so i was like the queen bee of the class. but what did i gain? i missed classes due to hang overs, i did things i regret and the friends i had then still come up to haunt and test me now. when i tell them i am saved, they just cant see how. anyhows, it aint worth it.
but wait a minute, let me warn you people, dont look at people doing all these things i did and write them off. dont just tell the humble girl in your class about Jesus and leave off the one who leads the troop with a mini and a small tight top. she also could come to God. dont get into their company, but dont neglect to tell them when you get a chance. why? because i was there, i know that every day, i ws looking for a way out. i wanted someone who would come and show me they way out but nothing. those people also need to hear. i was one of them some time back. oh, ok, so maybe i am off topic but i just felt inspired to tell you all this.
i love you all for accepting me when i came in here with all the dirt and grime of the world. i love you all. it sounds shallow when i say it, so just know i feel it. God bless you all
another thing, when people say GOD BLESS YOU, they normally dont mean it. it has become a mere form of greeting. i dont want it to be a greeting with me, i want it to be a blessing, and a testimony. so once again, GOD BLESS YOU

desertroses

03-13-2006, 03:10 PM

What an amazing testimony!! I believe your faith in Him is what led you out of that lifestyle namwacha. By His Blood we are saved. May God richly continue to bless and guide you! :)

JoeC

03-13-2006, 05:12 PM

Good words namwacha! Sometimes I think we're intimidated by those who are popular and worldly.

BroTrevor

03-13-2006, 05:31 PM

Oh my, Amen Namwacha...

Don't leave out nobody...God loves them all.

We're so thankfully you found the way out!!

Unregistered

03-14-2006, 03:49 AM

im 25 and i thought i would have been married by now :D but unforunately there is no one in my church......im not sure if that is fortunate or unfortunate
its neither, its God's will! amen!
i am 20 and i see myself getting married at any time now. if anyone shows interest soon, and i feel led to reciprocate, well, who knows! even next year or so. unfortunately, no signs yet, and i am scared of commitment because i met only bad guys before. otherwise, i wanna get maried soonest!

NeedGod

03-21-2006, 01:16 AM

oh my, some times we do feel intimidated joe, thats for sure. i think God allowed me wander out there so i could know how these girls feel and not feel like they are intimidating. in high school i used to feel that, so true. but you know what, after i became part of them, i knew how sad and desperate these girls are. thay are rude and haughty. sometimes they are just downright annoying. but now, i got to look at them with different eyes. eyes that see needy people. i think thats why Jesus went out of His way to minister to needy sinners. the woman at the well, Mary magdalene, Zacheus, they must all have been queen bees and proud and haughty in their time. think of it. all of them were like that probably. but Jesus saw the inside part of their hearts and called them to Him.

To be like Jesus
To be like Jesus
On earth i long
To be like Him
all through life's journey,
From earth to glory,
I only ask,
To be like Him

azurity

03-21-2006, 07:14 AM

Wow, Namwacha, that is an amazing testimony!

From what I've read, I would really love to hear your whole testimony. Were you brought up in the Message? When did you come to know the Lord? Who led you? Please share it all, even if you start another thread to do it!

I've been blessed in that I didn't need to go to College. (We call it uni in Australia. Which of course is short for University.) My parents never encouraged me to go. In fact, Mum often said that it was no place for a sister, but in my opinion, she needs to do what the Lord is leading her to do. I went to TAFE (http://www.chisholm.vic.edu.au/portal/page?_pageid=36,564309&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL) (Technical and Further Education. You do less theory, more hands on at TAFE.) for about 3 years, but I never felt pressured to fit in. I was asked to go to the pub for lunch a few times "The do sell water, you know." and got a few strange looks for the way I dressed, but it didn't affect me.

I did Certificate IV in IT (which took 1 year), then I did Diploma of Business Administration (2 years). I could have then gone on to do Business Management at Uni, because I already have a diploma in the same subject, it would have taken a year off. So another 2 years, I would have a Bachelor.

But I didn't need to. As part of the course, we had to do a week's work experience. I did it at the school my brothers go to. Then, I did some voluntary work, and not long later, a position came up there. I had been praying about it, and just really felt to work there. He answered. I started out as 2 days a week. A year later, I went to 3 days. I hadn't even done that for 6 weeks, and they rang me up and said "Can you start full time on Monday?" Wow. That was a shock. I was still studying full time! But I got through the year, and all thoughts of further study were put away.

I love my job, and I'm so thankful for it. I work with Christian collegues, and while they aren't in the Message, they respect what I believe. I earn a decent income, get 6 weeks annual leave (which I always manage to push to 8, or 12... ) and love what I do.

But, if tomorrow the Lord told me to pack up and move to the other side of Australia, I would.

As long as I knew He was with me.

NeedGod

03-22-2006, 02:15 AM

i think i wrote it early this year in prayers and testimonies but i have come such a long way since then i need to update it soon. i will do that soonest!

BroTrevor

03-22-2006, 11:31 AM

As long as I knew He was with me.

ROMANS 8:38
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Nor moving to another part of Australia...

<grin> He's always with is children... They are a part of Him...

Umph... excuse me while I go shout a bit.

azurity

03-22-2006, 09:08 PM

You're excused. But we don't mind if you shout in here, either.

And the part about moving to another part of Australia was kinda a joke... but no one got it. :D That's ok. I'm kinda glad. I did mean it tho... and nothing can seperate me from the love of God!

NeedGod

03-27-2006, 08:26 AM

UUUH, NOTHING CAN SEPARATE ME EITHER. He chose me and knew me before the foundation of the world. even if they wanted to separate me, they would not be able to. isnt it great? its so good. ok, now i feel like shouting too!:yay: :yay:
AMEN!!!!

collegegirl

03-28-2006, 01:22 PM

I love ya'll so much. It makes me feel good to be a Christian and to have a testimony, and then to be backed up by such enthusiasts, (thank you Bro Trevor and Namwacha). It encourages my walk, and helps me for when I work, as it can get very discouraging, especially now.

blessed

03-28-2006, 01:58 PM

Amen Bro Trevor....shout all you like, I love you all this site has really been a blessing to me.

NeedGod

03-29-2006, 06:55 AM

and my dear, you are a blessing to us too. i love you sooo much. you make me feel so at home here. and you know why? because God is working through us. becuase He lives, i can face tommorow. ok, soon, i will be expelled from here due to the noise i make, look, i am shouting again...>>>:yay: :yay: :yay: :yay:

blessed

03-29-2006, 09:56 AM

You are allowed to make noise as long as its giving glory to God.... :yay:

NeedGod

03-30-2006, 01:09 AM

oh really? ok, everyone who loves the lord shout out to me and tell me you love Him!

jtucker

04-12-2006, 01:46 AM

22 as soon as my soulmate and i are prepared and ready then God will bring it together:yay:

NeedGod

04-18-2006, 06:52 AM

well, are you saying you want to marry at 22.well, so will we hear wedding bells soon or what?:)

blessed

04-18-2006, 12:02 PM

Seems so as long as it is the Lord's will.. check out the Fort Namwacha..

Angelo

04-18-2006, 07:33 PM

22 as soon as my soulmate and i are prepared and ready then God will bring it together:yay:

Good for you jtucker. Me, I'll probably be single the rest of my life.

HotShot53

04-18-2006, 08:02 PM

Good for you jtucker. Me, I'll probably be single the rest of my life.

Just wait until you meet "the one" ;) (not saying that being single is not good also... but it only lasts until you meet "the one" ;))

Angelo

04-18-2006, 10:38 PM

Just wait until you meet "the one" ;) (not saying that being single is not good also... but it only lasts until you meet "the one" ;))

I believe in God's perfect timing and perfect gift. I prayed over it and told Him that this'll be the year that I prefer to meet "the one". Discerning also within myself the need for fellowship that extends further with another person that is perfectly designed by God.

NeedGod

04-19-2006, 02:08 AM

i think we shouldnt give God a time frame in your prayer. if you do, you might just get permisive and not perfect will.

Babyruth

04-19-2006, 03:25 AM

Be content and happy with being single! It's the best! I plan on staying single for the rest of my life and I'm satisfied with it. I've taken Paul as my example. He said it was better to be single. :yay:

NeedGod

04-24-2006, 01:42 AM

oh, but very few are called to be single it think

Babyruth

04-24-2006, 03:11 AM

:D "I am one of the few, one of the few..." :D

NeedGod

04-24-2006, 09:10 AM

yeah! just wait till you meet someone!

HotShot53

04-24-2006, 03:19 PM

Lol, in the discussion on another thread, it seemed that when you aren't looking for that "special someone" often happens to be the time that God brings them into your life... so get ready, Ruth, it might happen sooner than you think ;)

blessed

04-24-2006, 04:26 PM

oh, but very few are called to be single it think

Says who?, I have noticed that people say this often...but according to who.

I am single and loving it, but there are those who think that a woman's duty in life is to get married. What about living for Jesus.

A sister once told me that I should pray for a husband...what for ????? If the Lord sends someone my way well then that's ok but I am actively involved in doing things for the Lord now and enjoying it...

HotShot53

04-24-2006, 04:33 PM

Says who?, I have noticed that people say this often...but according to who.

My guess is according to statistics...

blessed

04-24-2006, 04:35 PM

My guess is according to statistics...
:ng_thumbd :ng_thumbd ..........................

blessed

04-24-2006, 04:36 PM

Wellllllllllllllll maybe, depends on who they use as data for their stats....

Babyruth

04-24-2006, 08:12 PM

Sara

04-24-2006, 10:09 PM

I sure hope not. "I am one of the few, one of the few..." I intend to stay that way!
I so totally used to think that of myself.

Ha.

Seriously.

Still, i don't see myself married before 23...

I think.

Or 22.

Not before 22.

For sure.

:)

HotShot53

04-24-2006, 10:20 PM

Lol, Sara was one of the founding members of the message nuns..... and now both of the founding members aren't exactly completely single anymore ;)

Babyruth

04-25-2006, 02:54 AM

Hey! I just signed your site the other day! Keep it up! Or give it to someone who will. It's needed! Someday, I'll be a message nun Mother. I'll be the oldest one! My goal!

NeedGod

04-25-2006, 02:57 AM

what is sara's site on xanga?

azurity

04-25-2006, 08:21 AM

Wooo.... go Message Nuns!

I think I'm going to be one for a while yet.

And, I plan to enjoy it.

I've got in so much trouble for saying that lately. Everytime I tell someone that, they say "but you have to make sure you're in the Lord's will."

Like they KNOW that it's the Lords will for me to be married by the end of the year.

This is just me personally, but I think everyone assumes too much that everyone should be, and wants to be, married... and sets out to do what they can about those that aren't. I think it would be better if everyone assumed that we're all called to be single, and if the Lord brings that right one across our path, then we should be thankful.

But... that's just me.

joris

04-25-2006, 08:53 AM

I'm 23; I have no idea if/when I am going to be married..

edit: some typo... ;)

AgapZoe

04-25-2006, 09:17 AM

Hmm,guess you ought to seek God's will in this one! as in,you just ought to seek Hs kingdom first and His righteousness and all the things shall be added unto you!if He planned for you to marry,you shall at the right time according to His plan..if not..well,you still won't!
God bless you Joris!

and azurity,i love your post!

NeedGod

04-25-2006, 09:25 AM

thats right Mu....seek ye first the kingdom! ad pray over a right person if you want one. i really wanted to get into a loving relationship. i think i am an emotionally needy person. nyway, after i got saved, the guy i had a crush on for more than two years revealed he also liked me alot. He also loves God

Babyruth

04-26-2006, 05:08 AM

NeedGod

04-26-2006, 05:10 AM

oh noooo! there is more of them in here? this is a disaster! lol

Babyruth

04-26-2006, 05:14 AM

What's wrong with you people? You think single people are bad? God made us like that. Paul was single! Get the revelation! :D

BroTrevor

04-26-2006, 11:51 AM

Get the revelation! :D

Hilarious!!

-------------

but...remember to balance Paul's words with

GENESIS 2:18
18 ¶ And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Could God have called you to help one of your brothers-in-Christ in His work God has for Him??

AgapZoe

04-26-2006, 12:17 PM

Could God have called you to help one of your brothers-in-Christ in His work God has for Him??[/QUOTE]

I hope and pray so,don't think I will survive on my own..I need someone to complement me! But not just now....but soon would be great! :)

(did I answer someone's question?;))

blessed

04-26-2006, 02:56 PM

Why not let Jesus compliment you.

In my opinion nothing is wrong with getting married but its better when you are single....Did not Paul say something like "an unmarried woman cares about things of the Lord and a married woman cares about the things of the world" or something like that.

BroTrevor

04-26-2006, 03:08 PM

I CORINTHIANS 7:32 - 35
32 But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
33 But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
35 And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.

"attend upon the Lord without distraction"

That is necessary in our lives. But sometimes we come to a place where we are more mature in our spiritual walk, and Jesus "compliments" us with a mate. So that the two of us combined can attend upon the Lord in an even greater way.

So... there's definitely a balance.

blessed

04-26-2006, 03:11 PM

Of coures there is.

BroTrevor

04-26-2006, 03:14 PM

Why not let Jesus compliment you.

I really like that.

Well posted!

blessed

04-26-2006, 03:18 PM

Did it get me a green :D

BroTrevor

04-26-2006, 03:24 PM

Did it get me a green :D

not sure... check your user CP to see!

Sara

04-26-2006, 03:29 PM

what is sara's site on xanga?

It's on my signature!

And the nun's site... i think i will... i think i will.

www.xanga.com/Message_Nuns

Aly...

:cool:

I need you.

I have plans for you dear...

blessed

04-26-2006, 03:33 PM

Oh Yes...sara, i have been meaning to ask you....

WHY ISIN'T THERE A MOTHER SUPERIOR ON THE SITE.....

Now that you have been excommunicated from message nuns, who is in charge...cause I left a post there and no nun advice was given.

HotShot53

04-26-2006, 10:32 PM

Actually, Sara wasn't excommunicated, cause once of the rules of the Abby was once you join, you can't leave.... but we got rid of the rule that you aren't allowed to marry ;) But the leader was supposed to be single, so that they would take care of the place better....

Babyruth

04-28-2006, 03:31 AM

azurity

04-28-2006, 09:36 AM

Aly...

:cool:

I need you.

I have plans for you dear...
Plans?? I'm worried already!

Haha.

Ok.... at your service m'dear.

:-D

Sara

04-28-2006, 10:38 AM

Awww...

I love you Aly...

Soo soooo sooo much!

She's such a sweet heart you girls...

azurity

04-29-2006, 12:44 AM

Love you too, gorgeous!!! :D

You're the bestest.

I was worried for a sec tho... thought you were telling the guys that, not the guys. Because THEY don't need to know.

Ah, you make me laugh. I make myself laugh.

But.... you still haven't told me the plans!!

Sara (the second)

04-29-2006, 05:21 PM

HotShot53

04-29-2006, 07:54 PM

DJ!!!!!!!

FIX THIS THING CAUSE IT WON'T LET ME LOG IN!!!!!!!!!!

SHEEEEESH!!!!!!!!!!

(ok, i'm calm, very calm.)

:)

-Sara

Sorry.... I have no idea how to fix things like that :( You'll have to ask Joe or spamboy... probably spamboy would be able to figure it out the best...

azurity

05-01-2006, 08:44 AM

Aly, no...

I wasn't gonna TELL the GUYS.

(i don't know what you're talking'bout!)

Hahahaha...

I know, you make me laugh too...

I make myself laugh too.

May God have mercy on us...

We're horrible...

:cool:

The plans.

Yes, the plans.

I'll write to you.

Brb.

No, no, no, i won't come back.

Ah, Sara, we're cool like that.

Laughing. We're going to have fun, girl!

The plans.

Yes, The Plans.

Plans ain't plans if you don't plan to bring them to pass, you know!

And... btw... it's your turn to email.

Have you logged in yet?

We should so totally fire that Abbot if he won't fix it for you. What's the point of being a mod if he can't fix log ins.

Sara

05-01-2006, 12:15 PM

Hahahhaa...

Yeah, i'm logged in now...

I think it was cause...

I'm logged in from laptop, from my school computer at the writing center... and my pc at home. SO... i over-logged in. (new word.)

:nerd:

Ok.

So, this is off topic, BUT,

This guy's so funny:

:wheelchai

I like him.

Hahahhaa...

Ok, Aly, yes, plans.

Plans.

I shall send you the password today...

:)

azurity

05-02-2006, 06:53 AM

Umm...

Now what?

Haha.

:wheelchai

Yeah, I think that guy is funny.

He's kind of cute tho.

What you think, Sar?

This is even further off topic, but...

:yay:

This guy. Disturbs me.

I think it's because he doesn't have any clothes on.

Yeah. That must be it.

ayn_joy

05-02-2006, 08:38 AM

Oh, dear! You folks are really funny!
I just read every single post on here, and here are some things I thought about...
I used to say that I would never get married, mainly 'cause every boy i knew was annoying, and because most of my family is divorced, and i didn't see the point in getting married, just to get heart-broken, and divorced, with some kids to care for. But at a church meeting, at our church, in Dallas, TX, a minister brought out an interesting point: didn't God make woman, FOR the man? So, if you decide not to get married, and turn down your soul mate, you have either doomed him to a single life, or an unfulfilling marriage. But, you also have to remember that it's possible that your soul-mate married the wrong person, or that he/she was killed, or still-born, and you won't know him/her untill the other side. In that case, your best bet is to stay single. So, the only answer is to pray!! :)

BTW, I am 17, and don't plan on getting married till aprox. 22. I plan on going to college for a PHD in mathematics.

HotShot53

05-03-2006, 12:03 AM

BTW, I am 17, and don't plan on getting married till aprox. 22. I plan on going to college for a PHD in mathematics.

Lol, either you plan to get your PhD awfully quick, or you plan to get married before you finish ;)

azurity

05-03-2006, 08:26 AM

When I was 16... I thought I'd be married by the time I was 18. Don't ask me how I had that figured out. But at that age, I thought 21 was old.

Now I'm 22. With less desire to be married than I ever had.

Maybe I really am old, after all.

NeedGod

05-03-2006, 08:32 AM

i am 20 and i have had the desore to get married since i was 6 years old! uuuh, wierd huh? yup, but its true! and i also want a phd! but i dont want to work when i get married coz i want to get babies and take care of my home....
uuuh, i think i need to set my priorities in order!

azurity

05-03-2006, 08:37 AM

So... if you get married, will you even need a PhD?

BroTrevor

05-03-2006, 11:31 AM

uuuh, i think i need to set my priorities in order!

May God give you wisdom to see His will for your life!

blessed

05-03-2006, 01:34 PM

May God give you wisdom to see His will for your life!
That comment makes me want to say Yes Father Trevor :D, but seriously its a great declaration on her life.

Sara

05-04-2006, 02:32 PM

Yeah...

:chris:

jtucker

05-04-2006, 02:57 PM

my mom once told me marriage is a time to enjoy your family even if you feel like strangling them half the time LOL

AgapZoe

05-04-2006, 03:17 PM

Lol.....................trust me,she was right!

NeedGod

05-05-2006, 02:53 AM

yea, i usually feel like strungling some of my siblings at times....uh-oh! i hope Halima doesnt read this:peep: but i love them anyway. i miss them to bits when they arent there.
bro.T, i pray that God opens my eyes. i used to think i would go ahead and get a phd just for self satisfaction. i am big ongetting knowledge, just for the sake.....some even say i might be a <shh, dont tell anyone this>....a geek!:y10:
yeah. anyhow, buti dont want a situation where my hubby will feel small because of my achievements. i want to be below him. i dont want to ever feel i am better than him and then forget to revere him as a husband.
having a phd might make me do this...or make him feel smal at times(you know men and those egos!)
but i dont know if i will be satisfied without it, i have always wanted a phd!
anyway, just pray for me

BroTrevor

05-05-2006, 10:58 AM

but i dont know if i will be satisfied without it, i have always wanted a phd!

I don't mean to sway you in any way from you going to college and getting your PHD

However, I think it prudent to remind you of some scriptures...I thought of these this morning as I read this post.

I TIMOTHY 6:6
6 ¶ But godliness with contentment is great gain.

and...

COLOSSIANS 2:8
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Please note, Verse 10 does not say anything about being complete with a PHD, but only in Christ.

So, while I don't much care whether you feel you should go for a PHD, there is some cause for worry in the fact that you wouldn't feel satisfied with out it.

Sure, we all have goals and such... but those goals shouldn't consume us so much that we are unhappy without achieving them, especially if they weren't achieved because we were following the leading of the Holy Spirit.

I am not unhappy that I never went to Colorado to become a kayak instructor, and that I never went to Australia, (primarily because I got married instead...) This may seem a small thing to you, but it was pretty much my lifes goal before SisTrev came along.

So, just make sure your lifes goals and priorities, and especially, your satisfaction, comes from Christ Jesus.

anyway, just pray for me

sure will!

joris

05-05-2006, 11:25 AM

what ego? ;)
(though if I were marriaged, my wive would've make herself absurdly-small if she had to be even smaller than me ;) ) :y10:
guess I'm saying, if I were to choose, she wouldn't be that small

Angelo

05-05-2006, 08:31 PM

What age do you see yourself getting married? (indicate what age you are now)
Any other takers?

Can I be exempted? :unsure:

32 and 33, I hope if He sees me worthy...

Angelo

05-05-2006, 08:45 PM

"Sure, we all have goals and such... but those goals shouldn't consume us so much that we are unhappy without achieving them, especially if they weren't achieved because we were following the leading of the Holy Spirit.
So, just make sure your lifes goals and priorities, and especially, your satisfaction, comes from Christ Jesus."
Bro Trevor

That is what I am having confidence right now even though i'm way past in having a family, I dunno, but I did ask Him that me as a person, If He has someone for me, I'd like to get to know her at this period, but then it's not yet final, not my will but His will be done, I'd be happy whatever.

Angelo

05-07-2006, 10:42 AM

sorry for the garbled words..

But I'd be happier being alone... with Him.. coz I don't think I'm that able materially..

NeedGod

05-08-2006, 04:01 AM

Thanks Bro. T. i am desirous of knowledge in a bad way. i guess many things contributed to this, for instance the fact that i failed high school despite being one of the top in my area in primary school. when i went into college,i feel the need to prove myself.
also, i just thirst for knowledge, and honestly, i feel like i would be incomplete without it. and yes, i thirst for it in a negative way. it is indeed good to get a phd, but i dont think the way i thirst for it is the right way.i think i would be torn to pieces if i dont get it.
also, i want to better my life. i yearn so hard to make my life better so my children will live a better life than i. here in our country, to get a good well paying job, one has to be either learned to the top or have good connection with big people in the country. i dont have connection but i have the chance to learn. i want to be able topay for overseas trips for my children and to make them live a good life. now, this sounds like a noble thirst, but for me, i know deep inside me it isnt. i know i wouldnt be satisfied if i didnt get to give them this.
i need to get a thirst for Jesus that will surpass all these other thirsts.
PRAY FOR ME!
i need to have the strength to say no to anything that threatens to take the place of Jesus in my life. the top position

already bought

06-16-2006, 02:08 PM

I've been reading bits and peices of it and some want to get married others are (what seems to be stuck) on not getting married. My concern is are we so set in our ways that we are forgetting God? Sometimes the vary thing we run from is what God has for us.
I know for my self there is something God has called me to do but I still run from it. Why? becasue I don't feel like I am acapible to do what he wants. BUt I heard this some where I thougth it was really good. God dosn't call the equipt He equips the called.
That really gose for me. Sometimes I still feel God has to push me to do what he wants me to.

already bought

06-16-2006, 02:09 PM

God has a way of getting you to do what he wants you to. But my prayer is Lord help me be more willing to do your will.

God'schild

06-22-2006, 04:29 PM

Correct me if i'm wrong

But didn't Brother Branham say( i read it rencently in the chosing of the bride) that the Greatest Thing That God Could Give A Man Outside Of Salvation Was A Godly Wife.

I still believe that there is someone speacial for everyone.

theres a saying that i heard
"someone step out of heaven for you"

joris

06-22-2006, 06:27 PM

theres a saying that i heard
"someone step out of heaven for you"well :y10:... Jesus did? :confused:

now... just such a weird thought, just imagine me supposed to be that one for some girl out there :confused:

JMG

06-22-2006, 08:11 PM

fredmaina

07-20-2006, 11:11 AM

i am 21 and men!if the Lord tarries i would wish to marry at 27 or 28 but that is subject to so many uncertainities since am still in college now!!

blessed

07-20-2006, 11:25 AM

Getting married is a very serious thing....not all the oooooosss and aaahhhhhssss we make it out to be its a sacred union before God, and we should approach it reverently.

already bought

07-20-2006, 02:57 PM

Getting married is a very serious thing....not all the oooooosss and aaahhhhhssss we make it out to be its a sacred union before God, and we should approach it reverently.

I totaly agree.

Sara

10-27-2007, 02:41 PM

I so totally used to think that of myself.

Ha.

Seriously.

Still, i don't see myself married before 23...

I think.

Or 22.

Not before 22.

For sure.

:)

Oh my goodnes!!! I haven't been here for long, but someone gave me a green for this post and... it turns out... that i'm getting married and just turned 21. If the Lord tarries, i'll be married before 22. Isn't that something??? Wow... the things i used to say back then...! :peep:

NeedGod

10-28-2007, 03:17 AM

Well, i can say i still don't see myself getting married before then. For starters i've got no prospects. Seconds, i'm not eager or looking(not that i should). Somehow the whole excitement got lost somewhere between my leaving Kenya and my landing in South Africa. Lol... But i have learnt never to say never... Jus let it be as The Lord wills. He works in His own time...

leahmb

10-29-2007, 02:17 PM

Oh my goodnes!!! I haven't been here for long, but someone gave me a green for this post and... it turns out... that i'm getting married and just turned 21. If the Lord tarries, i'll be married before 22. Isn't that something??? Wow... the things i used to say back then...! :peep:
Well I know for sure I won't be married before I'm 22 :D

Nomes

10-30-2007, 03:06 AM

I'm 16.. and I don't think i'll be/want to be married before I'm about.. 22

Nomes

10-30-2007, 03:08 AM

While on the subject of marriage.. thats' my brothers wedding in the little picture :)

marichino_freedom

10-30-2007, 11:43 AM

oooh, very cool!

EllyMae

10-30-2007, 05:02 PM

While on the subject of marriage.. thats' my brothers wedding in the little picture :)

You should give us a link to see it full size. It looks like it would be a really neat photo!

joris

11-01-2007, 08:06 AM

not sure whether I posted here before;
Anyway, am 25 now, and no reason to think I'll be in some kind of relationship, any time soon. At times doubting whether I'll ever be in a relationship, whether I'd ever experience intimacy, or even whether I'll ever experience (real, close) friendship; oh well, whatever, if God thinks I don't need it, it must mean He'll come that close that His presence is enough, right?

Noe

11-01-2007, 08:28 AM

i'm 22 and wanted to marry at 17. lol.....so God doesn't do it our way.

Angelo

11-14-2007, 05:31 PM

They say I look 24 at age but actually it's a secret. I hope we'd get the funds next year.

blessed

11-15-2007, 12:09 PM

you're getting married Angelo?

Angelo

11-15-2007, 05:12 PM

I hope so. :-)

NeedGod

11-16-2007, 05:58 AM

hehe, no wonder he has not been online too often lately. That explains it... You should have asked her to join YQ too, lol.
I am begining to think I might not get married in the next 3 years or more. But who knows how God works, lol. I have no prospects and I have lost the rush that comes with thinking of a guy. IS that a good or a bad thing? lol

leahmb

11-16-2007, 12:29 PM

Is that a good or a bad thing? lol Wow! A lot can happen in 3 years...do you think we'll all still be hanging out here in 3 years? <random question> We should have a reunion planned for those who 'fall away.' :D

Probably good. I'm sure when it's the right one, the feeling will come back, but until then, no need getting worked up over any and many of the available single male species.

TommyLewis

11-20-2007, 11:30 PM

do you think we'll all still be hanging out here in 3 years?

Dubious...tis the nature of the transitory lives we lead...

no need getting worked up over any and many of the available single male species.

Yeah...we guys are pretty much a waste of time anyways...plus we belch and throw our socks on the floor...haha...

EllyMae

11-21-2007, 12:53 AM

Yeah...we guys are pretty much a waste of time anyways...plus we belch and throw our socks on the floor...haha...

You guys have an excuse for everything, don't ya? :D

NeedGod

11-21-2007, 08:56 AM

ha, we're not even hanging around here as much as we used to last year, so no. I wonder what happened to YQ... It used to be so alive. I would post like more than once a day. these days I post like once and then return after two days and find no one has replied.:ng_thumbd I prefer spam replies to no replies

leahmb

11-21-2007, 12:31 PM

Spam replies to no replies, eh? Maybe it's a good thing? Maybe it means were all doing produtive things with our lives? Or have others found other online communities?

NeedGod

11-22-2007, 12:33 AM

nah. loads of people still hang out on MSN.. but wait a second, actually you may be right, not as many people hang out on MSN either. But yeah, people are getting married, those that were in high school went into college and you know what that means. Those that were in college got jobs and can't really afford to be here anymore. Gaah, no one has time anymore. True true. Still, I miss YQ fun... <wistful look>

Angelo

11-22-2007, 10:34 AM

She visited when I told her, but I don't think she put up an account. Maybe in the future, she will.

AgapZoe

11-22-2007, 10:48 AM

TimRick

12-05-2007, 10:15 AM

Wow,the thread went from being the most active to a thread where sisters are Nuns..... great(:012:) But hmmm personally,I will move on with life till one God sent sister comes my way.Been in a series of bad r-ships that are just crazy and wooooaaaah nuts.Need God I guess we share the same experiences.The world is a hot place,just to be frank there is little bad things that i never did when I was out there.But God came down on me like he did on Mount Sunset,and i was restored.Its still tough on me considering that my greatest and worst influence is my closest friend who comes to church.

A'wa maybe al marry at 26.Being single is fun only that you tend to lack moderation of somethings.E.g. I spend more than 14 hours daily behind a computer unless o'ws.A'one with the same experience?

NeedGod

12-06-2007, 01:26 AM

True Tim, although, sometimes I think hiding behind anything including the computer(which is something i do often myself) is not the way out. We need to be out there in the field fighting. The only time we can hide is when we have not fed on the Word, cause I remember sometime back, a preacher said, testifying without listening to The Word is false witnessing. So the fact that you have lots of friends who're not yet in is great,pull them in. especially if they are people who come to church. Remember what pastor Kamwatti says, the seed of God is anyone, anyone could be one of them. Do not write anyone off. Just pray for them and shine for God till through you, they see Jesus

Cherry

12-12-2007, 03:41 PM

im 17 and would like to be married by 18 or 19:D

HotShot53

12-12-2007, 11:40 PM

im 17 and would like to be married by 18 or 19:D

Lol, do you have your guy all picked out?

Nomes

12-13-2007, 12:57 AM

I spend more than 14 hours daily behind a computer unless o'ws

You're kidding right?

NeedGod

12-13-2007, 01:57 AM

Lol, I spend sometimes more than tthat in time behind a computer, lol

leahmb

12-13-2007, 01:23 PM

Lol, I spend sometimes more than tthat in time behind a computer, lol

WOW! I thought I was bad with 9 hours...

Cherry

12-18-2007, 03:47 PM

Lol, do you have your guy all picked out?

wellll:) ....lol well whether i do or not id still wanna marry young and have lots of kids lol Lord willing nehow:D

marichino_freedom

12-18-2007, 07:04 PM

you are brave! lol.....

seth and i discussed it......no kids for AT LEAST 10 years.....

HotShot53

12-18-2007, 10:38 PM

you are brave! lol.....

seth and i discussed it......no kids for AT LEAST 10 years.....

Just wait for a year or two... when all the hints start dropping that it's about time you guys had kids, and your parents want some grandkids... at least Seth's parents already have a grandkid (don't know about your family)

marichino_freedom

12-19-2007, 03:34 AM

well, my dad has two step grandchildren, and my mom has one stepgrandchild.

trust me. people's opinions shan't sway me. ;)

that's why we have isaac & vanessa. hahahaha...... :D

leahmb

12-19-2007, 02:37 PM

wellll:) ....lol well whether i do or not id still wanna marry young and have lots of kids lol Lord willing nehow:D

Well, Bebo says the relationship status is "In a relationship" hmmm :tongue_sm

10 years...wow, I'm curious to see if you last that long!

marichino_freedom

12-19-2007, 02:52 PM

hahaha.....i'm sure a lot of people are.

EllyMae

12-19-2007, 04:14 PM

you are brave! lol.....

seth and i discussed it......no kids for AT LEAST 10 years.....

That would make you 33 when you start having kids...

Are you sure you want to wait THAT long? :D

My mom had my brother when she was 27 and me at 29, and she has said many times she wishes she didn't wait so long.

marichino_freedom

12-19-2007, 05:33 PM

yep...absolutely sure! there's too much seth and i want to do with each other (travelling, etc) that would be hard to do with kids. plus, we just aren't ready to even think about the idea yet..... :D

33 isn't so bad :peep: plus we will have save up (hopefully) enough money by then. we won't have to struggle.....and i'm going back for my master's in 2-3 years, and he wants to finish his......so that would be another setback

TimRick

12-20-2007, 03:09 PM

Well,

Am hoping and trustiong in God for a successful and a big company to bridge the digital divide in Kenya and many other African countries.Currently I have joined an organisation that will help me gain some insites and skills pertaining to that.Like for the next three days all be in a retreat to review the policies and how to do resource mobilisation.Am alittle ambitious and I don't want to flood the thread with my ambitions but I keep them in prayer.I also hope to marry at the age of 25-26.Currently am doing kneeology(Saying on my kness in prayer) so that I can get someone who will be God fearing and will compliment me.Yap thats my Vision.

joris

12-20-2007, 06:51 PM

It's always nice to get compliments :);)

Naomi Michelle

12-23-2007, 03:16 AM

I'm 16(nearing 17) and don't see myself marrying for a long time, if ever.
Too much I want to do before I go tying the knot(if ever).

AlanaH

12-26-2007, 06:56 PM

I don't wanna get married until I'm at least in mid-twenties. No one on the horizon anyway...

collegegirl

12-26-2007, 11:07 PM

God seems to love a good plot.

And so my life takes another turn! <hangs on for dear life>

AlanaH

12-27-2007, 02:41 AM

So...what's that supposed to mean???

leahmb

12-28-2007, 01:18 AM

God seems to love a good plot.

And so my life takes another turn! <hangs on for dear life>

LOL! I wonder what a poll would look like of when people got married according to when they originally wanted to?

shasta-daisy

12-29-2007, 05:08 PM

I'd like to see that poll. I don't think most people do get married when they originally plan too. I always thought I would get married young. But I dated SEVERAL looser guys. I wonder where all the good guys are??? My past experience with guys left me in no rush to get into any relationship, not to mention think about marriage. But of course at 25 I do think about getting married someday; But that's SOMEDAY no rush..... anyway, I guess Im rambling, I do that sometimes. I guess my point was life does not always turn out as planned, especially when it comes to relationships. But God has a plan for our lives, right? So I don't stress about failed plans; Im sure HE has a better plan.:o

leahmb

12-29-2007, 07:42 PM

But God has a plan for our lives, right? So I don't stress about failed plans; Im sure HE has a better plan.:o

Precisely! As long as we keep ourselves in his will...He'll work out the details :)

collegegirl

01-15-2008, 09:34 PM

LOL! I wonder what a poll would look like of when people got married according to when they originally wanted to?
HAHA! That poll would be about <counts> 5 people big.

ROFL! :rofl:

blessed

01-16-2008, 02:26 AM

hmm.... and that amount may even be an overestimation :D

BroTrevor

01-16-2008, 10:44 AM

God seems to love a good plot.

Well, you have to admit, He IS the author of the #1 best selling book of all time worldwide.

NeedGod

01-16-2008, 09:07 PM

He is. Last year I thought I was nearly married, but now looking back, I cannot imagine being married soon, seeing as I need to do some growing up and by that I mean spiritual growth. Standing for the faith etc. I have seen how marriage eats up all of one's time. I want to be sure I am ready for a life where I can be a pastor to mychildren and an inspiration to my husband. I want to be the fifth gospel. And while marriage is beautiful, it is only before marriage that one has time to do so. So well, that is what I want to do. God will show me when the time is right

MarieLenora

01-18-2008, 01:06 AM

This was from a while back...but.

Do sisters consider, if they want to go to college, but don't know if it will be useful in marriage, or if they just don't know what they want...do sisters consider a possible teaching degree to enable them to be better at homeschooling their children?

I really would love to see some "message" schools. (yah..I know they can't be connected to the church for fear of "organization" <quivers w\ fear>) but couldn't some enterprising sisters offer to teach kids in their homes for those mothers who aren't able to homeschool their kids and such.

I'm just really interested in this kind of thing. I actually really wish I could do this. I could almost be convinced to leave my job to do this kind of thing.

But seriously, if a sister was blessed with a decent sized house with a basement or something they could turn into a classroom of sorts, one could make some extra money on the side and help out brothers and sisters in the church as well by educating their kids along with your own kids.

Does anyone else ever think of this?

Or maybe people don't think about this till their kid is almost 5....but by then it's going to be really hard to start college.

Anyhow...I remember this same conversation at WYR with Bro Barry's morning session about 5 years ago or so. Isaac Rightenower stood up and said something about why would girls go to college, aren't they supposed to be in the home anyhow? The poor boy, he was crucified on the spot. <chuckle>

-Trevor

Yup, Trevor. And I got my degree--just for that purpose. Not so that I could teach at a "Message School", but so that I could educate my own children.

(But, in the meantime, teaching 6th grade ELA is very character-inducing. And patience-building.)

collegegirl

01-18-2008, 09:46 AM

You know what?

I have considered that. That has passed through my mind several times. Wow...homeschooling other message believer's children. I've never really thought about THAT though...

HotShot53

01-18-2008, 02:03 PM

technically, you would need to start a school for that purpose... probably run it similar to homeschooling, but officially it would need to be a private school if someone other than the parent is doing the majority of the teaching. (At least that's the way it is in PA... I assume a lot of states would be similar)

marichino_freedom

01-18-2008, 03:10 PM

that's a very interesting idea......

blessed

01-18-2008, 09:50 PM

You know what?

I have considered that. That has passed through my mind several times. Wow...homeschooling other message believer's children. I've never really thought about THAT though...

Strange.... I've been thinking on this since i came back.. starting a small school for message kids..

SisTrev

01-18-2008, 11:13 PM

Strange.... I've been thinking on this since i came back.. starting a small school for message kids..i think you'd be good at it blessed. You seem to have a way with kids and can still "keep your cool" at the end of the day...trust me ....I 've seen you with my kids.:) :)

HotShot53

01-18-2008, 11:17 PM

Sounds like we should start a forums message school with branches all over the place ;)

NeedGod

01-19-2008, 01:24 AM

That idea already budded up in Kenya where we have loads of churches for believer's kids. Went to one for two terms but left cause it was a boarding school. Lovely idea though. I would go for it but I am not too great with kids

Babyruth

01-19-2008, 04:35 AM

Our church has a school and I think it's great. I've never attended it, although I always wished I could have, but I know it's been a blessing to all who've attended.

shasta-daisy

01-20-2008, 03:48 AM

I think that Message Schools are a great idea. It sounds wonderful. I am getting a teaching degree, but its early childhood, so technically I will only be able to teach pre-school, kindergarten, or afterschool program. But if the school was similar to homeschool, who knows.... maybe it could be done.....anyway, it's a good idea.

NeedGod

01-21-2008, 12:22 AM

Our church has a school and I think it's great. I've never attended it, although I always wished I could have, but I know it's been a blessing to all who've attended.
yeah, Nathaniel from your church told me about it long ago. I know its off topic, but how and where is he? I remember I used to wish I could come teach in the school by there

NeedGod

01-21-2008, 12:48 AM

Back on topic. I had many visions about going to school to do m y masters and God willing even my doctorate later. But this past week has taught me something about how I go about my visions. I was thinking I would do my masters in a different country and all. But now I have come to realise that before I look for a good school, I should look for a good church in the area where the good schools are. I have began appreciating how God led me to a good pastor recently, when I have gone to church where the teachings are not as straight as they should be. So now before I conclude or make any decisions on which town I will move to, I will pray for a good balanced church

BroTrevor

01-21-2008, 11:18 AM

jordancpeterson

01-24-2008, 08:36 PM

shasta-daisy

01-26-2008, 07:53 PM

That's why you move to Arizona... ;)

So, why do you move to Arizona???

BroTrevor

01-28-2008, 11:13 AM

So, why do you move to Arizona???

Well, other than the nice weather.

And some kids go there to "find themselves" (lol)

I think he was referring to the more lax home schooling laws.

leahmb

01-28-2008, 01:11 PM

OOoo, is that what it is?

Speaking of vision...I always have been a planner, especially in the area of my life...but recently, I've kind of let go. I think it's a good thing. Obviously not forever, but for now I think it's good. It's kind of like, "not my will, but thine." And, surprisingly, I can't really predict the next year of my life...we'll have to see what God has in store.

marichino_freedom

01-28-2008, 04:27 PM

sometimes, surprises are GOOD things.....

jordancpeterson

02-01-2008, 03:41 PM

I think he was referring to the more lax home schooling laws.

You are smart man! ;)

jordancpeterson

02-01-2008, 03:44 PM

Speaking of vision...I always have been a planner, especially in the area of my life...but recently, I've kind of let go. I think it's a good thing. Obviously not forever, but for now I think it's good. It's kind of like, "not my will, but thine." And, surprisingly, I can't really predict the next year of my life...we'll have to see what God has in store.

I echo exactly what you are saying. I've always had all these plans and it's now like none of them seem appealing (ok, well maybe not none of them but). I still have them but it's like things fall through and I don't know... interesting life though! That's for sure!

Snoopy

02-04-2008, 05:57 PM

If this isn't the most thinly disguised "I'm single" advertisement, I don't know what is ;)

jordancpeterson

02-04-2008, 06:05 PM

This whole thread?

leahmb

02-05-2008, 12:05 PM

I'm single <waves arms frantically>. :D Is that what you mean??

NeedGod

02-07-2008, 03:25 AM

Lol snoop. I disagree with you but that was funny

shasta-daisy

02-09-2008, 05:25 PM

If this isn't the most thinly disguised "I'm single" advertisement, I don't know what is ;)
Yes? It is? How so?:confused: But, let's start that thread. LOL!

Snoopy

02-10-2008, 12:51 AM

HAHAHAHA....

I don't think that was anybody's intention, I just think that if you go back and really think about the topic/question, it begins to sound suspicious to say the least.

leahmb

02-11-2008, 06:11 PM

OK! <Leah stops waving hand in the air> ;-)

TommyLewis

02-12-2008, 09:33 PM

I would say it is at least somewhat suspicious...

Megs

02-13-2008, 12:48 PM

well i was GONNA post... but then again... lol.

leahmb

02-13-2008, 02:31 PM

I think it's funny that it took over 2 years for someone to decide it was suspicious...or maybe people thought it, but didn't post?

HotShot53

02-13-2008, 02:50 PM

I think no-one thought it was suspisious, because most people on this board (other than a few known people) are single... so it's not like it's any revelation that people posting on this thread are single ;)

leahmb

02-14-2008, 12:25 PM

Good point! I never thought it was...

NeedGod

02-16-2008, 04:23 AM

me too. I actually think it is a somewhat encouraging thread if I could say so myself. would help people who do not have proper visions. But hey, even if it could be an advertisement thingy, hey, big deal right ;) lol. Its somewhat fun. We really should start a thread like that for fun

Megs

02-18-2008, 07:25 PM

someone once suggested a message singles sight... In complete jest, and an elder present took her seriously. lol. what a scene. you should have seen the girl trying to explain her sense of humor...