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cabletown
10-30-2006, 05:41 PM
What are your standards (of if you don't have children, what would they be) for your son or daughter chatting online with other guys/girls they haven't met (except on YQN or similar Message discussion sites)?

leahmb
10-30-2006, 06:18 PM
Personally I don't have any male contacts on my MSN list. I used to, but I never talked to them, so I removed them. I guess I find it hard to find appropriate topics to talk about. Plus, I don't want to leave any room for misinterpretation, so I prefer to communicate in a more public setting. As for e-mail, pretty much the same standards, unless its "business" related, then I don't mind. Just my personal standard I've set, because I've seen many friends get into trouble when they are too free with their inter-gender communication.

SisTrev
10-30-2006, 06:40 PM
it depends on the topics of discussion. If its appropriate, then its no different then if they were just talking to a friend of the opposite gender in person.

And if they are talking/chatting with other kids their own age I dont see a problem with it. But if there is a huge age difference I'd say its not appropriate if they've never met before. Expecially if the girl or boy is a young teen and the other is a lot older...they dont need to be chatting with each other if they have never met.

Only One Life, Live 4 GOD
10-30-2006, 08:09 PM
Whoa I mean WHOA uh hmmm well how are teens drasticly different in age ??? 13 is only 5 yrs younger then 18 and anyway my friends vary drasticly in age my youngest friend is 13 my eldest 35 and she is as fun or funner than all the rest and with fun out of the question she's a real nice decent person and a great loyal friend I have worldly friends aged 23+ that Are some of my BEST friends All right when your talking about male and females on the internet that have never met and ones a christain and the other isnt then I agree yuo shouldnt talk I know what the guys at work are like. But you cant shield your kids from all bad stuff I mean kids 10 upwards know about stuff you wouldnt want your kid knowing beilive me. mum sat me down and told me stuff when I was 13 I had already been told by my friends when I was 10.
And back to topic as I've said on othe forums it depends on the person and how MAture they are if they are trusted to be home alone for a month getting a liscensce and have a job I beilive its fine but then many of you will just dissmiss what I'm saying because of my age people always lose intrest in me when they hear my age normally they think I'm 18 or 20

Jezz
10-30-2006, 08:12 PM
I don't see a problem with it as long as neither of the two start chatting with the express purpose of trying to find out if you'd be a good husband/wife. Girls who think that just because you started talking to them it *must* mean that you want to marry them or something annoy me. I never talk to those ones again.

Just keep the conversation impersonal until you're both comfortable talking to each other and don't make it too personal until you meet each other.

If I had children it would depend on their age as what standards I would set. At 16 years or more I'd probably let them talk to whoever they wanted, give them advice where neccesary but I'd let them use their own judgement. Before that I'd want them to limit their contact with guys (I'm assuming I'll have daughters because thats what I want lol) they don't know but I wouldn't stop them altogether.

AlanaH
10-30-2006, 10:06 PM
I feel the same way as you Jezz. And I have a few male contacts that I talk to (not very often, mind you), but it's no different than we would talk face-to-face. And only one person has ever dared to talk too personally with me online, and that didn't last long because I cut that off.

JoeC
10-30-2006, 10:36 PM
Okay folks! <pulls out hammer>

I feel really strongly about this issue. Any male-female interactions under a certain age, like Jezz said, should be watched carefully by the ones who are responsible for those young people's souls. Don't and you do it at the risk of your soul and theirs being greatly wounded.

Leah, I really admire you for having the discernment to pick up on how easy it is to misinterpret someone online.

Now here's the thing. The internet has a spirit of autonomy on it. A person gets on here and feels like they're in their own world. Like Larry (aka SpamBoy) said the other day when we were talking about this same issue, people's fingers type faster than they think.

In my own interactions online, I find myself being a whole lot more open to people - saying things I wouldn't normally say. It's very easy to slip in the way of discretion.

NOW! Here is where I don't think people of any age should use private chat programs. In a romantic relationship.

Case:

The internet promotes autonomy. This leads to a sense of privacy and a lack of discernment. Now, for us humans here, typing whatever you think (as often happens with private chatting) is potentially volatile when some of the things you will naturally think about someone while under the influence of emotions should never be expressed until marriage. Even saying "I love you" can set wheels in motion that have no breaks.

Mark that I am not speaking in theory, but from practical examples I know of. It's far better to make yourself accountable by speaking, instead of typing. It's just fact that some things are far more easily typed than spoken... even when no one else is listening.

Babyruth
10-31-2006, 12:02 AM
I am ashamed to say this, but I do have guys on my MSN list. I didn't, and then they just appeared, not even sure how they got on there, other than my family. But, Bro. Lance spoke a service not too long ago and I decided to block every guy on there. I really don't like talking to guys online, it's kind of weird. People say "it's different," but I don't really think it is. If you wouldn't call them on the phone, then you shouldn't talk online. When I switched to MSN beta, it unblocked everyone, and I haven't gotten around to blocking everyone again. So, this made me think of doing it. I mean, what do I need all them on there for anyway? If I need something, I can email them, and vice versa. Should I do it Leah? :D

joris
10-31-2006, 04:36 AM
If you wouldn't call them on the phone, then you shouldn't talk online.that one wouldn't work for me, I hardly ever use the phone, and I don't exactly enjoy calling

yeah I've got girls on the list, though wouldn't ever want a far-away relationship; nothing to worry about -- I speak with them much like how I'd speak to guys

PianoMan79
10-31-2006, 09:53 AM
I agree that it comes down to discretion. I'll admit that I have talked with girls online; and, unfortunately it did go too far once, but I quickly got out of it. Now if I do I try to avoid potential problems, and if I feel things are getting suggestive I will find a way to leave. And yes, sometimes we do type faster than we think!
This is where the responsibility lies with parents of young children. Until they are older (say 16 or 17 at least), parents should carefully monitor who their children communicate with online, and make sure they understand what is or is not appropriate.

JoeC
10-31-2006, 02:35 PM
My feeling is that the age doesn't matter. Parents are accountable to God for as long as their children are under their headship. For girls, it's until she becomes married, when the headship passes from father to husband. For guys, I'm inclined to say as long as they live under the father's roof.

Noe
10-31-2006, 03:47 PM
uuummmm.... where do i start?? it is definately important to watch young people (15 or 16) on the internet.
i don't talk to guys much anyways (only speak when spoken to). i never talk on the phone to anyone (have a phobia or something with talking on the phone:) ) so that is never a problem, but i do have two guys on my MSN i have never met before and i'm very like whatever(meaning all i say about is yes and no not much more) on there, plus i have some guys who i know really really well. one even calls my mom 'mom' when he speaks to her cause our families are really close.
Serious problems can arise when talking to strangers, we know someone, who was not a christian, who got into serious things through talking to some stranger some place. uumm i think that was all i was gonna write.

Jezz
10-31-2006, 08:31 PM
If you treat every stranger you meet with fear and disdain then you'll never make any new friends. There is nothing wrong with talking to somebody of the opposite sex online. Personally I would want to know who they are, as in maybe they are a friend of a friend or they go to a church I know of. Something which would allow me to know that they're not some stalker freak. Are people so out of control that they can't talk to somebody of the opposite sex online without it going beyond a simple friendship?

My church is full of guys and there is only 2 girls even close to my age (by close one is 6 years younger, and the other is 4 or 5 years older) so the only way I can talk to christian girls is online. My contact list is probably half girls and half guys. I don't go on msn much so it isn't a big deal. I have no interest beyond what the Lord wills in terms of meeting my future wife. I don't understand why people would block or delete all contacts of the opposite gender.

EllyMae
10-31-2006, 10:06 PM
If you feel a conviction of it (talking to the opposite gender online), then by all means follow the Lord's leading.

It's going to be different for everyone. We all have different comfort levels and what-not.

Once again, it's one of those things I don't think is wrong, but it can be a problem if you don't handle it appropriately. Be careful what you say and how you say it! Haha... It's very easy to be misunderstood online, so we do have to be careful. And if you're the kind of person that does type faster than you think, than maybe it's a good idea you don't talk to people of the opposite gender. But, like I said, it will be different for everyone. :)

Jezz
11-01-2006, 03:13 AM
I guess I just have trouble understanding other peoples point of view on this topic. I've never had any troubles online so maybe that is why. I agree with EllyMae, everybody should follow their convictions and the leadings the Lord gives them.

NeedGod
11-01-2006, 03:27 AM
I have guys on my messenger lists and i dont think i'll be deleting them soon. I enjoy talking to believers, both guys and girls and the advice i get from guys is invaluable when it comes to dealing with guys in churchand all.
i however realize the danger of talking online. You can get attached. Still, i think it all depends on the person. Also, most of the guys i talk to online are miles away and i am a realistic person, so its an imposibility.
But be careful.

HotShot53
11-01-2006, 02:49 PM
I also have few friends close by to actually hang out with, and I rarely use my phone (except for a couple people who almost never get online... I hate calling someone not knowing if they are busy or not...) so pretty much most of my friends I chat with online... I don't see it as any different than hanging out with them. I agree, you shouldn't get too personal chatting, no more than I would talking on the phone, but I see no problem with casual conversations between guys and girls.

Only One Life, Live 4 GOD
11-01-2006, 04:26 PM
I am ashamed to say this, but I do have guys on my MSN list.

I am NOT ashamed I have guys on my list look the worst thing that can happen is they get a little fresh and you delete them and block them I mean Hello we arent exactly a different species My sister wouldnt be married if it hadnt been for the internet of course he actually saw her at a convention and did his best to find out who she was and then someone gave him her email addy and he started emailing her like a friend and it got more serious and they met again and fell in love.
Ok they didnt chat that much on MSN but they did on Skype
ANd what is wrong with Guys and girls tlaking abou the message on the internet thats what me and my contacts do I mean some of us cant voice what we think about the message with words but we find it easier just at a computer without people around.
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I just kinder get bugged when people go all Legal on me like a do this do that dont do that or this dont tlka to them dont talk to him hes a guy thats a nono I mean arnt we in the same species ...
Sorry if I seamed a little aggitated or aggressive in anyway and Ruth it wasnt pointed at you it wasnt pointed at anyone just genrally.

leahmb
11-01-2006, 04:56 PM
ANd what is wrong with Guys and girls tlaking abou the message on the internet

I don't think most kids talk about the message, but that is great if you do. Maybe I've just been exposed to too many problems. Most of the kids I know that use it, it's a convenient tool for flirting. Some I think would be fine, but it's very hard to find the line of who is fine and who's not. People talk, so I know one would be like "oh, she won't talk to me" and another would be like "oh, we talk every day." I don't need more problems :)

Only One Life, Live 4 GOD
11-01-2006, 05:02 PM
Yeah a spose with such a huge fellowship you must get all sorts of people it would be hard to determine who would do the right and who would do the wrong stuff

EllyMae
11-01-2006, 06:23 PM
Hello we arent exactly a different species.

Haha, that just made me laugh.

It actually is a shame that it's come to the point where we can't talk to the opposite gender online without it becoming awkward (sometimes). You would think us Christians could handle ourselves better than that, and be more mature. I've never had a problem with talking to guys on the internet. I enjoy fellowshipping with them just as much as with girls. Especially since there's only one guy around my age that goes to my church. However, if someone has had previous trouble with talking online to the opposite gender, or just simply feel a personal conviction, I see nothing wrong with not doing so. We're all our own person. :)

Unregistered
11-01-2006, 06:47 PM
Personally i don't find nothing wrong with talking to guys online. In fact i have a guy friends and one of them i'm close friends with. My sister deleted all her guy contacts except for the ones she related to..

What so wrong with having opposite gender contacts??? If you know how to controll your emontions or your brain from running to fast then i don't think it is a problem..

leahmb
11-01-2006, 07:35 PM
Yeah a spose with such a huge fellowship you must get all sorts of people it would be hard to determine who would do the right and who would do the wrong stuff

That might be part of it, because we have like 150 young people from 13-22, so there are definatly more opportunities to talk in person and get to know someone, rather than resort to doing it online.

Babyruth
11-01-2006, 08:19 PM
The reason I see it as a problem and how Bro. Lance mentioned it is that you say things you wouldn't say to their face. You are more friendly, not always in a good way, and even "common." Now, I know that sounds old-fashioned, but it's true. Guys talk to girls and girls talk to guys in ways they wouldn't normally face to face. They say things they regret. I don't mean all, but certainly enough. When you normally wouldn't talk to a guy alone, you do online. That's what I see as the problem.

EllyMae
11-01-2006, 08:54 PM
I completely understand what you're saying, Ruth. A lot of the things you said are very true. If it bothers you, than I'd say you're doing the right thing. :)

The internet has opened up a lot of opportunities for me to meet other message believers, that I normally would have never met. Online is really the only place I do get to talk to Christians guys because I know very few where I live. I don't feel that talking on the internet alone is necessarily the same as talking in person alone. There's a big difference there...

I will say that (as others have mentioned), we are a lot more open to someone we meet online about our lives, than we would a stranger passing by us. But, that's with anyone online, not just people of the opposite gender. Which we need to become more cautious of...

What would the prophet say to something like this? Check your motives. What is your motive for talking to the opposite gender online? That's what it boils down to.

Babyruth
11-02-2006, 03:11 AM
I agree with you as well. Nicely put.

JoeC
11-02-2006, 08:28 AM
If you know how to controll your emontions or your brain from running to fast then i don't think it is a problem..
Big assumption. Like I said, I've known people who would have thought the same thing you do... now they regret it. When it comes to the flesh, no safeguard is too extreme (although I really don't advocate literally plucking out your eye... or cutting off your typing fingers).

marichino_freedom
11-02-2006, 07:35 PM
My feeling is that the age doesn't matter. Parents are accountable to God for as long as their children are under their headship. For girls, it's until she becomes married, when the headship passes from father to husband. For guys, I'm inclined to say as long as they live under the father's roof.


so what if you don't live with your father or your parents just basically let you fend for yourself....? just curious if they are still "accountable", when their child(ren) have to make their own decisions without permission or whatever from them......

but i do agree that the internet can cause things to get out of hand. i had to block so many people (not just guys) because they were just downright disgusting......and i had never even talked to them before

redeemed
11-02-2006, 07:50 PM
Check your motives. What is your motive for talking to the opposite gender online? That's what it boils down to.


That is really good advice.

jordancpeterson
11-03-2006, 07:01 AM
I just kinder get bugged when people go all Legal on me like a do this do that dont do that or this dont tlka to them dont talk to him hes a guy thats a nono I mean arnt we in the same species ...

I define 'legalism' as something you do but really in your heart you don't want to do. If one of us has a requirement that we don't talk to a certain group of people (whether it's online, in person, IM, MSN, Y!, AIM, PM, YQ, forums, etc.) but we'd really like to then we are being a legalistic and more specifically a hypocrite. But if someone has a personal standard and they don't mind doing it deep down in their soul/heart then that to that person is not legalism. Forcing it on someone else shouldn't really be considered legalism either except only to the persons that don't want to do it.

(although I really don't advocate literally plucking out your eye... or cutting off your typing fingers).

Come on! It's in the Bible! You have to advocate it! :D

In general for me online communications is a great way to meet people and get to know people you wouldn't otherwise meet, but I have seen it to be a time waster too (in some ways). I mean, can I say I regret my conversations online? No not necessarily. But really in 1, 3, 5, 10, 20 years is going to make a difference. I love making friends and I love communicating with people online or off.

And I think it may have to do some with how much you had the opportunity growing up being able to be around other people. My parents kept us quite protected. Do I regret it? Not really. Parents know best! Yes, there have been times I felt bad growing up that I couldn't go do something with the youth but I think the rewards that have been reaped from the sacrifices have been worth it.

And all this online communications... we really don't know how good or bad it is for society. Not until it plays out I'd say for another 30 years will we really know the effect of it. Whether marriages last when people meet online (I know there are a lot of other variables but you get what I'm saying).

For me I have to watch my time spent online and even on the computer (no, I don't play computer games, have done very little in my life time) but I do love learning and if I get on wikipedia or some other interesting research or start reading quotes in the Message on a topic I could spend hours on the computer. For me it boils more down to is it a profitable use of my time and/or is it in excess. I do agree there are other dangers to IM too though.

Only One Life, Live 4 GOD
11-04-2006, 01:36 AM
Legalism as I've been taught is when you take it to the extreme like you have to have a skirt that covers your knees and then someone says that you have wear a skirt that goes to the ground I know a guy that walks up to sisters if he thinks their skirts too short or too tight and he'll ask them to put their foot on a chair to show them but who needs to have a skirt loose enough to do that they shouldnt be doing that anyway thats not ladylike and anyway also like you say not to wear huge heels like real high heels and that same guy says your not supposed to wear heels at all thats legalism...
Doing somthing that you know you shouldnt thats sin aka unbelief

God'schild
11-04-2006, 01:47 AM
i honsetly don't think it's wrong to have guy contacts. it's easier to talk to them on msn then it is on the phone. if you think it's wrong then delet them all. But us as human beings can't avoid the opposite gender.

What's so wrong with having guy contacts??? personally for me i don't find nothing wrong with it. i'm very careful who gets my email. i've met most of my contacts except for a few of them. etheir i met them at camp or at some youth event.. God made guys and God made girl..
We can't avoid going through life not talking to opposite genders even if it is online..

I know some people that met their mates online.. Yea i agree you have to be careful when talking to someone online, but shouldn't we also be careful who we talk to on the street??

but i'm very careful who i talk to.. and very carefull...

what does it really matter??
those are just my thoughts...

joris
11-04-2006, 05:48 AM
to me, legalism sounds like doing whatever you do, because you feel you have to, which basically means you think you'll get some kind of reward for doing that or you'll get some kind of punishment if you won't.
Main problem is all that misses the realisation that, all God gives is grace, and all He let's happen, it's not punishment, but it's Him allowing it to form your heart

marichino_freedom
11-04-2006, 05:55 AM
legalism IS taking something to an extreme (like saying you HAVE to have your sleeves a certain length)....but its in your heart that you have to be right and if you are convicted by it, then you should do something about it.....and as long as you arent blantently doing something you shouldnt i think you are ok (like wearing a miniskirt)......

for instance:

skirt length to me doesnt matter so much as long as it covers your knees "sitting, standing, running, and jumping"....

just an example.

joris
11-04-2006, 06:10 AM
legalism IS taking something to an extreme (like saying you HAVE to have your sleeves a certain length)....but its in your heart that you have to be right and if you are convicted by it, then you should do something about it.....and as long as you arent blantently doing something you shouldnt i think you are ok (like wearing a miniskirt)......well you could easily be wearing exactly the same as a legalistic girl - the point is that you choose what you wear because of loving God and trying to live such that it pleases Him, instead of earning something :)
I hope I'm not confusing or so I just want to stress that part, of what are your reasons

Only One Life, Live 4 GOD
11-04-2006, 06:21 AM
I'm half confused but no wot ur talking about

marichino_freedom
11-04-2006, 06:26 AM
now i'm confused.....:confused:

azurity
11-04-2006, 09:27 AM
Legalism is doing something because you feel that you have to, not because you want to. Under law, you are told what is right & what is not.

Whether it is, "You have to wear your skirts to your ankles", or "You have to wear your skirts below your knees"... it's still legalism, if that isn't what is in your heart to do.

But once you come under grace, it's just automatic, you dress to please the Lord, and don't worry what anyone else thinks. Like Brother Branham said "I don't have measuring sticks in church.... Let Christ come into the heart; the rest of it will take care of itself. That's right. Just get Christ in the heart; it'll take care of the rest."

Back to the original topic, I should be right now feeling like a rank sinner. Because the first person I ever chatted to online was a guy. He's still on my list. In fact, I chatted to him today. We've always been great friends, nothing more.

About half of the contacts on my list would be guys. I would chat to guys just as much as girls. I don't think it's very nice to discriminate against people just because they're opposite gender. I talk to alot of the guys that are on this forum, but many of them, I got their email addresses from else where.

I don't agree that you shouldn't chat to guys that you wouldn't call up on the phone. I chat to alot of girls that I wouldn't call up to talk to on the phone. To me, IM is alot more informal and casual. I can understand with emailing, but IM isn't quite as committed.

As EllyMae, it's all about your objective. I don't get alot of fellowship where I am, especially with people my own age. And I have had some of the most precious fellowship with brothers online, talking about the Lord and the Word.

Once again, it's a tool, and you can either use it for good or bad. That's just how I feel!

eagleendtime
11-04-2006, 12:21 PM
sometimes we need that opposite gender fellowship.

As said, prayer and discretion are in the order. Your motive and objective must be analyzed. Ask yourself Why? What for? The purpose?

Now I may step on a few toes here, and I don't mean too. Also are you married? Why then are you talking to the opposite gender? Isn't your spouse good enough? Let's put it this way no man has a business visiting or phoning a married (or single if he's married) woman when her husband isn't around (vice versa too). Oh nothing may happen but why let the Devil have room. I have talked to married sisters, but at fellowships, get togethers, visiting the husband, (in other words a group setting). "Shun the very appearance of evil"
If I see a married sister while out and about, I will be friendly, but no long conversations, same on the phone if phoning for the husband (it's short, quick , and to the point).

My brother once explain Grace and Legalism this way. He used me for the example. Before the law said we should drive with seat belts fasten. I had it so drilled into me from my Private Pilot days, that fastening your seat belts wasn't just for safety but gave you a better feel what the plane was doing and how it was acting. I found it so, also when driving, that I could hardly drive without it being fastened (it irratated me when driving a vehicle without belts). So does the law affect me, nope. I would do it without the law, that is how a chrstian does things for Christ (living right, doing right, thinking right) because from our hearts we want to.

God'schild
11-04-2006, 03:39 PM
A very good point!!!!

Benoni
12-21-2006, 10:38 AM
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Benoni
12-21-2006, 10:53 AM
Susannah Wesley

Susannah Wesley was on the the great mothers of history. One day one of her daughters wished to do something which was not altogether bad, but which was not right. When she was told not to do it, she was not convinced. It was late and she and her mother were sitting beside a dead fire. Her mother said to her: "Pick up that bit of coal." "I don't want to," said the girl. "Go on," said her mother. "The fire is out, it won't burn you." "I know that," said the girl. "I know it won't burn me but it will blacken my hands." "Exactly," said Susannah Wesley. "That thing which you wish to do won't burn, but it will blacken. Leave it alone."



I think its totally not wrong to have people we talk with on loine or chat. But many times we are doing things where we cant be pointed out clearly that we are wrong neither can we be right. Thats where the wisdom of God prevails and sees us make decisions!

Hope this makes sense.:confused:

i honsetly don't think it's wrong to have guy contacts. it's easier to talk to them on msn then it is on the phone. if you think it's wrong then delet them all. But us as human beings can't avoid the opposite gender.

What's so wrong with having guy contacts??? personally for me i don't find nothing wrong with it. i'm very careful who gets my email. i've met most of my contacts except for a few of them. etheir i met them at camp or at some youth event.. God made guys and God made girl..
We can't avoid going through life not talking to opposite genders even if it is online..

I know some people that met their mates online.. Yea i agree you have to be careful when talking to someone online, but shouldn't we also be careful who we talk to on the street??

but i'm very careful who i talk to.. and very carefull...

what does it really matter??
those are just my thoughts...

SisTrev
12-21-2006, 11:40 AM
Susannah Wesley was on the the great mothers of history. One day one of her daughters wished to do something which was not altogether bad, but which was not right. When she was told not to do it, she was not convinced. It was late and she and her mother were sitting beside a dead fire. Her mother said to her: "Pick up that bit of coal." "I don't want to," said the girl. "Go on," said her mother. "The fire is out, it won't burn you." "I know that," said the girl. "I know it won't burn me but it will blacken my hands." "Exactly," said Susannah Wesley. "That thing which you wish to do won't burn, but it will blacken. Leave it alone."

I love that....its a great thing to remember.

AgapZoe
12-21-2006, 12:02 PM
great quote over here!

AlanaH
12-25-2006, 01:18 AM
Again, the theory my mom has always used with me, "When in doubt, don't."
For me, it's always been better to error on the side of caution that to hurt yourself by doing the wrong thing.

joris
12-25-2006, 05:15 AM
Again, the theory my mom has always used with me, "When in doubt, don't."
For me, it's always been better to error on the side of caution that to hurt yourself by doing the wrong thing.funny, some time ago I had someone tell me "the worst mistake is to do nothing at all" in the sence that "if you're continuesly avoiding making mistakes, you 'll never do anything" (well I've got the tendency not easily to jump into something...)

AlanaH
12-26-2006, 12:22 AM
It's always worked for me, but it may not work for other people. I'm not really that impetuous either...
But I've not done a lot of things that would have ended up hurting me, all because I decided not to do it at the last minute because of a lingering doubt. Normally, I've found that if there is even a question that it could be wrong, 9 times out of 10 it is. So that's maybe why I'm a little extra careful.

marichino_freedom
12-26-2006, 11:31 AM
i'm not a terribly cautious person, but there have been times when i listen to my little voice saying "BAD IDEA!!!!!" and i am thankful for those times

God'schild
12-26-2006, 07:08 PM
it all points to your motive and objective.

AlanaH
12-27-2006, 12:27 AM
i'm not a terribly cautious person, but there have been times when i listen to my little voice saying "BAD IDEA!!!!!" and i am thankful for those times

Same here...the still small voice can actually speak quite loudly if you are listening for it.

marichino_freedom
12-27-2006, 11:56 AM
absolutely! like i said, i am so thankful for it

AlanaH
12-27-2006, 03:57 PM
Me too. It's gotten me out of trouble a whole heap of times.

Star
04-30-2007, 02:32 PM
I think in a way it is so, well if you're always wondering if what you say is being interpretted differently than what you mean than it probably not worth while.
In one way, it is easier to write something than to say it face to face. I find I can say more when I'm emailing someone than when I talk to them because I just don't do a lot of talking when I am with people(mostly). But on the other hand, I usually reread what I wrote and often take out something that I think would be thought of in a way that I didn't mean it.

kafuanga
05-09-2007, 08:24 AM
:) halloo pple GOD's blessings be upon u.. how r u all?

BroTrevor
05-09-2007, 05:54 PM
:) halloo pple GOD's blessings be upon u.. how r u all?

Good!

Welcome!

How are you?

ABC
05-20-2007, 10:53 AM
Well... I'm giving out my opinions here... :)

As someone said before, check your motives - why do you talk with opposite-gender. Is it just for to get to know siblings in Christ? *talking about christians meeting online* Or do you search for something... deeper? Anyways... I believe, it's all about your motives.

Hence, is it wrong to chat with boys/girls, if you're girl/boy? Check out your motives once again... ;-) Personally - as some of you might know me from chats - I really experienced it as a blessing to get to know brothers and sisters online, that I wouldnt ever meet in real-life. And I dont think, it's wrong to chat with christian brothers and sisters. I believe, one of those reasons, why internet was ever let to be invented, was to connect Saints from all corners of World. :)

ABC
05-20-2007, 11:04 AM
Oh and... had to check the original post...

So, my standards... oh well, I'd watch, with who my children are talking with. If I didnt know them, I'd find out, who're they. And when they would be getting closer to "full-age" (say, 17-19), there they could start judging by themselves, with who they want to talk with. And well... if the company would be ok, I wouldnt actually mind, if they're girls or boys... :)

emy_faithgurl
12-04-2008, 02:54 AM
Personally for me I think its not really right, unless its a older brother or talking about Godly matters. I have to admit I've gotten a bit carried away in the past and it was damaging to my walk with the Lord. Lately I've been convicted about this, which I am thankful to God for. But if I had kids I'd make sure I saw everything they do online. But its a bit harder for me because my parents aren't Christians so they don't care less, so I'm basically trusting in the Lord to give me guidance.

AgapZoe
01-07-2009, 09:07 AM
Personally for me I think its not really right, unless its a older brother or talking about Godly matters. I have to admit I've gotten a bit carried away in the past and it was damaging to my walk with the Lord. Lately I've been convicted about this, which I am thankful to God for. But if I had kids I'd make sure I saw everything they do online. But its a bit harder for me because my parents aren't Christians so they don't care less, so I'm basically trusting in the Lord to give me guidance.
Amen.... He's faithful. :) happy to hear such a testimony from you Emy. God bless you for that and may He even save your parents. :) amen.