L-O-V-E Love...

[AndrewMichael]

LAW_ CHICAGO_IL 01-15-55
38Then I can hear God, all the great eternity, which makes Him up, all space, all light. I can see that all come down to four letters: l-o-v-e.

THE_LAW_HAVING_A_SHADOW BINGHAMTON_NY 12-03-54
52 Oh, I can see God Who covers space and time, Who has no beginning or ending. I can see it all bottled down like a funnel, coming down like this for one four little lettered word l-o-v-e.

Here are just a few quotes of the vast majority that are on this same subject.

Love. True Godly love fills all time and eternity, and I think I am finally understanding this. How many times have we heard the prophet say "No law but love," and then we turn around and throw people a book of rules for salvation? This is what I think most Message churches are missing.

The Seven Seals were not sent to start another creed, the phrase "in the Message" has nothing to do with "in Christ" (and I personally can vindicate this one), and legalism has no place within love. Why would I tell a brother to not say certain words? Because I love him, and do not want his walk with the Lord to be hindered. Why do I say "Amen!" in church? Because I love God and I can't help it, not to prove my spirituality to anyone else, but out of the love of my heart, my mouth speaks.

I think we need to get off of the "Is this slit ok? Are these heels too big? Did Brother Branham say this or that or the other?" and get back to that real love of God. Even though I know these can be sincere questions, if we miss having the love of God in us, there is no purpose to discussing such things.

We need to love to where we forget about this $0.84 body and focus on those souls that are worth more than ten thousands worlds. I don't care how lost you think they are, don't forget where you came from. How marvellous this love really is...

[BroTrevor]

Boom x2!


I think we need to get off of the "Is this slit ok? Are these heels too big? Did Brother Branham say this or that or the other?" and get back to that real love of God.


Good stuff brutha... good stuff.

[Babyruth]

That is beautiful. And so true. Bro. Byskal has been preaching on this for a while. Its so true. And I need more love for people, especially my younger siblings. They can be so annoying, but I know I need to love them more, and it would make things better.

[leahmb]

I kind of used to think family was exempt :P, but I think at either LA camp or ours, someone talked about how you can love everyone else, but not show it to those who are closest. It definatly made me think about it. I've tried to work on it, but it's a proccess :) I also read somewhere about this in regards to checking out someone of the other gender's character; it said something like see how they treat their family, because that's how they'll treat you....interesting thought.

[Babyruth]

That is very true. Our relationship has gotten better, but they are both in that really difficult time of life, making life kind of crazy for everyone here! Leah knows what I'm talking about!

[joris]

those who are closestuhm...
I don't exactly see my parents - or sister - or brother - as people who are close to me

[Jezz]

Amen brother, its all about love and the only way to get that love is through receiving the Word because that is what love is, the Word. Without that Word it doesn't matter if you don't watch movies, television, don't swear, don't do this, don't do that you are still not becoming one with God. You need to let that Word/Love work in and through your life so that you may put on the mind of Christ.

1 Corinthians 13:1-3
[/URL]Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not agape love, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
(http://yqnews.org/forums/)And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not agape love, I am nothing.
[URL="http://yqnews.org/forums/"]And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not agape love, it profiteth me nothing.

[redeemed]

amen!! this is a great thread!

[chocolateismybestfriend]

Here are just a few quotes of the vast majority that are on this same subject.

Love. True Godly love fills all time and eternity, and I think I am finally understanding this. How many times have we heard the prophet say "No law but love," and then we turn around and throw people a book of rules for salvation? This is what I think most Message churches are missing.

The Seven Seals were not sent to start another creed, the phrase "in the Message" has nothing to do with "in Christ" (and I personally can vindicate this one), and legalism has no place within love. Why would I tell a brother to not say certain words? Because I love him, and do not want his walk with the Lord to be hindered. Why do I say "Amen!" in church? Because I love God and I can't help it, not to prove my spirituality to anyone else, but out of the love of my heart, my mouth speaks.

I think we need to get off of the "Is this slit ok? Are these heels too big? Did Brother Branham say this or that or the other?" and get back to that real love of God. Even though I know these can be sincere questions, if we miss having the love of God in us, there is no purpose to discussing such things.

We need to love to where we forget about this $0.84 body and focus on those souls that are worth more than ten thousands worlds. I don't care how lost you think they are, don't forget where you came from. How marvellous this love really is...

Well here i was expecting to a read one of those typical andrew for bacherlorhood/anti-girls posts and i was pleasantly wrong.

Love it :)

It's all above love, mercy and GRACE. His Grace that is.

[HotShot53]

I also read somewhere about this in regards to checking out someone of the other gender's character; it said something like see how they treat their family, because that's how they'll treat you....interesting thought.

Probably pretty true, too.. cause once you are married to them, you are family ;)

[AndrewMichael]

Well here i was expecting to a read one of those typical andrew for bacherlorhood/anti-girls posts and i was pleasantly wrong.


I will just say this much... the factors that we usually have for "liking" a particular mate, usually have nothing to do with love, at least in all my experiences. I now am a firm believer in an intense friendship before ever considering the courtship part of it. Everyone tells you to "marry your best friend," and now I'm understanding why. Of course, there is a thin line between close friendship and falling "in love," many cross it when they shouldn't.

Let love have its way, and everything else falls away.

[Babyruth]

Yeah, I thought it was going to be a weird thread, but it is really not. I like it, and agree. We have to have brotherly love or Godly love for one another. So many people go to church but can't stand certain people, and that's not right. We need to love one another, and see the good in each other, just how God sees us. I mean, if God chose you, then shouldn't I treat you with the utmost respect?

[PianoMan79]

Yeah, I thought it was going to be a weird thread, but it is really not. I like it, and agree. We have to have brotherly love or Godly love for one another. So many people go to church but can't stand certain people, and that's not right. We need to love one another, and see the good in each other, just how God sees us. I mean, if God chose you, then shouldn't I treat you with the utmost respect?
Excellent point!

[Babyruth]

Thanks.....

[Angelo]

Love really has a lot of ways to be expressed and shared. If we have genuine love we can understand another person's condition and would tend to empathize rather than criticize. If we have love from above, doing good and the commandments is never a difficult task.

[blessed]

I am going to be honest here, but I am shocked. Good post Andrew I am impressed.

[joris]

If we have genuine love we can understand another person's conditionuhm; as our understandings are usually quite limited... understanding helps but we should learn to love even if we don't really understand
:greetings

[AndrewMichael]

Hmm... I don't mean to sound strange but,

Why did everyone seemed surprised at what this post was really about? I'm not that critical am I? and if so, I'm sorry that I have protrayed that.

Maybe an example...
BroTrevor and I seem to have a couple different views on certain issues, which really isn't a big deal (though many might disagree with me), but if I saw him in person it would be the same "God bless you brother" handshake/hug I would give to my closest Christians friends (the hug part to guys of course... lol).

IF we cannot do the above with anyone, there is a problem. If I "have not charity, I am nothing." <---- That's actually in the bible too, just in case you were wondering, and I take it very literally.

[jtucker]

Man i have been out of the loop for to long, i love the post Brother Andrew. if nothing else we should see Christ in each other!!

[BroTrevor]

Why did everyone seemed surprised at what this post was really about? I'm not that critical am I? and if so, I'm sorry that I have protrayed that.



I think it was the title of "love". They presupposed you were going to be sarcastic and not spiritual on it. You being the guy that posted... this post (http://www.yqnews.org/forums/showpost.php?p=34905&postcount=1) I think the girls were regarding your posts with trepidation. I can't say as I totally blame them....although I did presuppose no such thing.



Maybe an example...
BroTrevor and I seem to have a couple different views on certain issues, which really isn't a big deal (though many might disagree with me), but if I saw him in person it would be the same "God bless you brother" handshake/hug I would give to my closest Christians friends (the hug part to guys of course... lol).


grrr... we disagree?? grrr...

[Babyruth]

Very true. Bro. Trevor, you are amazing! Reading our minds like that. :D

[Angelo]

uhm; as our understandings are usually quite limited... understanding helps but we should learn to love even if we don't really understand
:greetings
That's good Joris, God bless you Bro. :greetings

[joris]

but if I saw him in person it would be the same "God bless you brother" handshake/hug I would give to my closest Christians friends (the hug part to guys of course... lol)there I still have a problem --
see... oh well, you give handshake to total strangers (say, at least if they aren't anymore total strangers to someone nearer to you ;) ) it doesn't seem that warm to me... but that may have to do with me hardly ever being touched (just, like physically) at home by my parents, except for the necessary things; no hardly any touching
oh well, I don't mind giving just the same hug to a girl/woman; some of my friends (a girl) usually does that as seeing each other again or leaving, or so - no problem there; also in this prayer group on monday, both men and women, hugging, no problem there :yes:

[redeemed_lizzi]

This is a brilliant thread. I recently came back from holiday and although it was brilliant, the one thing that was sad was that there seemed to be such a lack of brotherly love amongst some of the bretheren. I mean, to be a christian means to be Christ-like and some of the things I was hearing were anything but. People not speaking to people because they believed or didn't believe in this that or the other. Can u imagine if God was like that?!!! Today u would be saved because u believed in him and tomorrow u would be tossed aside because u doubted?!!! I totally agree that to be 'in the message' does not mean a person is 'in Christ'. Doesn't the Bible say that the person who hates his brother in his heart, that that same person is a murderer :

1 John 3:15
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him

and also

1 John 4:20
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

Like someone previously stated, if God, the one who knows all things sees fit to love someone; who am I, who knows next to nothing, to turn around and tell God that He can't know what He's doing and choose to dislike/hate the very person He has chosen to love? God is love - Amen and amen.

[Babyruth]

Amen and Amen! :D

[blessed]

Like someone previously stated, if God, the one who knows all things sees fit to love someone; who am I, who knows next to nothing, to turn around and tell God that He can't know what He's doing and choose to dislike/hate the very person He has chosen to love? God is love - Amen and amen.


Good point there sis!

[AlanaH]

Amen!!!!!!!!!!